2017 ALDS | Indians vs Yankees

[Mr. Orange]

Certainly disappointing. But I’m not upset about this year. Last year is the one to be upset about. As I was unfairly roasted for saying, that may have been our best, last chance. Up 3-1 in the WS and choking is 1000x worse than this.

You tip you cap to NY for having the guts not to quit after Friday. It’s not the umps fault either. The Indians just were not the better team when it mattered. The Yankees were flat out better.

I felt like this team was like the Hawks of a few years ago. Great regular season team, but it was quite obvious they would have a tough time in Oct when the competition got better and they couldn’t beat up on Central teams. It was an entertaining season so therefore a very sucessful year. We should be proud of them for winning the division.

 

[PIP]

You deserve some heat in this as well for being a shitty Prophet

Yea about that. As it turned out that was a dream apparently. I found the ball in my man cave last month...

 

[Triplethreat]

Congrats to the team that accomplished everything and absolutely fucking nothing all in the same year.

Just another let down. We all should have seen it coming.

 

[Mr. Orange]

Jose’s “3-0 in the Bronx cupcake” tweet doesn’t really stand up well here does it?

Might even reflect a little bit on his mindset and why he started pressing, huh? That kind of shit happens when you underestimate your opponents and suddenly start getting humiliated on a big stage.

This for sure. There was certainly some hubris by the team and their fans, thinking, no, expecting the WS all year. Have to respect the team in front of you until you win the deciding game.

The other pisser is that this Yankee team isn’t as hatable as past teams. They are kind of fun, have some good home grown guys, and have a great future. As a baseball fan you look forward to the ALCS. Maybe they can knock off Houston. It would be crazy if they get to the WS.

 

[CLEistheCITY]

This for sure. There was certainly some hubris by the team and their fans, thinking, no, expecting the WS all year. Have to respect the team in front of you until you win the deciding game.

The other pisser is that this Yankee team isn’t as hatable as past teams. They are kind of fun, have some good home grown guys, and have a great future. As a baseball fan you look forward to the ALCS. Maybe they can knock off Houston. It would be crazy if they get to the WS.

They are very hatable especially with the douche bag Yankees fans back. Fuck them.

 

[Akron330]

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so damn depressing. Blow a 3-1 and 2-0 lead back-to-back seasons. Lose game 5 to the same pitcher that couldn't get it done for us in 07. CC has one good outing against Boston and we are WS champs.

Thank the Lord for Lebron James and the Cavs.

 

[Mr. Orange]

They are very hatable especially with the douche bag Yankees fans back. Fuck them.

If you want to be mad at anyone it should be Jose, Lindor, Kluber, etc. They were favored and lost. They played poorly. The Yankees played hard with tough ABs, good SP, and good defense. Yeah their fans are douchebags but that comes with winning. Have you seen Ohio State fans?

The Indians and Browns are bad teams so obviously they don't have loud mouth fans. I'm sure if they had closed the deal in 1997 or 2016 they would be jerks too.

What I don't understand is how you lose 10 clinching games in a row when you only need 1 win. That is incredibly frustrating.

1997: Mesa
2007: Boston 3-1
2016: Chicago 3-1
2017: New York 2-0

This is too awful to not be some larger picture. Maybe it is the Wahoo curse. Oh well, on to the Cavs.

 

[Huber.]

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so damn depressing. Blow a 3-1 and 2-0 lead back-to-back seasons. Lose game 5 to the same pitcher that couldn't get it done for us in 07. CC has one good outing against Boston and we are WS champs.

Thank the Lord for Lebron James and the Cavs.

Cavs are out manned, Browns suck and the Indians choke. Cleveland 2017

 

[col63onel]

Saw this stat on LGT

Since 95, Indians are 7-3 in playoff series that do not go the distance, and 1-7 in series that go the distance (counting the 1 game "series" vs Tampa in 2013). And they won their first full series....coincidentally a 5 game win over the Yankees in the 97 ALDS.

The other losses are 97 vs Marlins, 99 vs Boston, 01 vs Seattle, 07 vs Boston, 13 vs Tampa and 16 vs Cubs.

So much choke.

 

[GreasySpread36]

Saw this stat on LGT

Since 95, Indians are 7-3 in playoff series that do not go the distance, and 1-7 in series that go the distance (counting the 1 game "series" vs Tampa in 2013). And they won their first full series....coincidentally a 5 game win over the Yankees in the 97 ALDS.

The other losses are 97 vs Marlins, 99 vs Boston, 01 vs Seattle, 07 vs Boston, 13 vs Tampa and 16 vs Cubs.

So much choke.

3-17 in closeout games since 1999 with a blown 3-1 lead in the World Series, a blown 3-1 lead in the ALCS and two blown 2-0 leads in the ALDS.

 

[Mr. Orange]

I’d say they overachieved last year and underachieved this year, but neither year were they the best team in baseball. We should be very pleased with anothe AL Champions trophy to add to the case.

 

[Chris]

What are you basing this shit on, Mr Orange? Just curious. They won 102 games...they are clearly an elite baseball team capable of winning the World Series. On paper, they had little to no weakness. They lost in the ALDS, but it's common sense that a fucking 5 game stretch doesn't eliminate the FACTS that a 162 game stretch established. For Christ's sake.

Now, onto the negative: this is indeed worse than last year. 2016, we weren't favored to win shit. We weren't as good, plus had injuries galore. There was a good regular season, but not a historic one. Making it to the World Series felt great; going up 3-1 was insane. Of course, they blew it, but the Cubs were just plain a better team. In reality, they were last year what the Indians are (and were supposed to be) this year.

But 2017, to do everything they did, and then fizzle out in the first round? AFTER going up 2-0, once again losing 3 in a row? To an inferior team? (it was established over 162 games that NYY is inferior, please do not try to argue otherwise, a 5 game stretch where they went 3-2 vs the Indians does not disprove this) Man, to me, that is a massive fucking failure, a complete disappointment, and zero positive can be taken from it except that the regular season was fun and full of hope...that only proved to be false. This. Hurts. Plain and simple, had this team just made the ALCS and lost a good series to Houston, you tip your cap and move on. That's baseball.

But what they did is go out and embarrass us. And that, to me, is much much harder to get over than what happened in 2016. Going to be pissed off all offseason. Going to take something special to get me hyped for spring training, man. All I'm going to be thinking about during 2018 is how none of this means shit until October. Similar to the Cavs, actually, except the Cavs don't have a chance of losing in the first round.

It's a shit feeling right now, it really is. Not reading or listening or watching anything until the ALCS starts.

 

[Mr. Orange]

@Chris

What are you basing this shit on, Mr Orange? Just curious. They won 102 games...they are clearly an elite baseball team capable of winning the World Series. On paper, they had little to no weakness. They lost in the ALDS, but it's common sense that a fucking 5 game stretch doesn't eliminate the FACTS that a 162 game stretch established. For Christ's sake.

Now, onto the negative: this is indeed worse than last year. 2016, we weren't favored to win shit. We weren't as good, plus had injuries galore. There was a good regular season, but not a historic one. Making it to the World Series felt great; going up 3-1 was insane. Of course, they blew it, but the Cubs were just plain a better team. In reality, they were last year what the Indians are (and were supposed to be) this year.

But 2017, to do everything they did, and then fizzle out in the first round? AFTER going up 2-0, once again losing 3 in a row? To an inferior team? (it was established over 162 games that NYY is inferior, please do not try to argue otherwise, a 5 game stretch where they went 3-2 vs the Indians does not disprove this) Man, to me, that is a massive fucking failure, a complete disappointment, and zero positive can be taken from it except that the regular season was fun and full of hope...that only proved to be false. This. Hurts. Plain and simple, had this team just made the ALCS and lost a good series to Houston, you tip your cap and move on. That's baseball.

But what they did is go out and embarrass us. And that, to me, is much much harder to get over than what happened in 2016. Going to be pissed off all offseason. Going to take something special to get me hyped for spring training, man. All I'm going to be thinking about during 2018 is how none of this means shit until October. Similar to the Cavs, actually, except the Cavs don't have a chance of losing in the first round.

It's a shit feeling right now, it really is. Not reading or listening or watching anything until the ALCS starts.

Well mainly three things:

1) I never trusted this lineup. 7-9 was always questionable and Kipnis clearly has regressed. So you had maybe 5 reliable batsmen.

2) Shaw and Allen gave everyone heartburn, and Miller wasn't 2016 Miller.

3) The Indians haven't won in 70 years and are notorious for coming up small in big moments. Like the playoffs.

4) They played mediocre until August. They were essentially a .500 team that happened to have a 22 game win streak. I thought Houston, Washington and LA (until recently) were more consistent over 162 games, and I thought the Cubs had a better team overall and less pressure. So sure, the Indians are a top team, but the best team? I had doubts.

Now having said that, this was probably the best team we will see in our lifetimes, with an amazing rotation, good bullpen, and some good depth. It is too bad the batters slumped in game 3.

Regardless, it has been a great two years. We have an AL championship, two Central titles, and a 22 game winning streak. For an Indians fan this has been amazing run. We should consider the AL our "championship" and be very happy with 2016. Especially for a small market team.

 

[Chris]

They played mediocre until August. They were essentially a .500 team that happened to have a 22 game win streak.

I saw a Yankees fan say the same thing, and everyone immediately shut him down and said that was asinine logic. You don't take out 22 game win streaks.

Everything else, whatever, I agree on the lineup but no team is gonna have a stud 1-9. What are we supposed to do. All we needed was something from Lindor and Ramirez and we win.

 

[shoes22]

Saw this stat on LGT

Since 95, Indians are 7-3 in playoff series that do not go the distance, and 1-7 in series that go the distance (counting the 1 game "series" vs Tampa in 2013). And they won their first full series....coincidentally a 5 game win over the Yankees in the 97 ALDS.

The other losses are 97 vs Marlins, 99 vs Boston, 01 vs Seattle, 07 vs Boston, 13 vs Tampa and 16 vs Cubs.

So much choke.

We were up in every single one of those series as well right?