Jeff Green: Old

[BimboColesHair]

Love this guy.

Yeah...this won't be a pretty thread if people decide to go back and grave dig early comments.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

HEY HAS ANYONE NOTICED THIS GUY IS REALLY GOOD

 

[buzzdog]

Yeah...this won't be a pretty thread if people decide to go back and grave dig early comments.

I took a look back there and surprisingly there were a lot of people on board with the signing. Of course there were some nay-sayers, but I think some of the worst were banned/deleted based on some of my own responses to posts that apparently vanished.

My take was then and still is, that when a guy has gone through the surgery Green went through it would make sense to me that he might not make it to full, 100% recovery for an extended time frame of 3,4 or even 5 years.

lots of people figured the Lebron factor would help him and I think it has, not to mention the DWade factor that we didn't know about at that time.

I really like this bunch of players we have on the roster. I think we're going to kick some serious ass before it's all said and done.

 

[Jontibs]

Green is going to have quite a highlight package from this year, every other game he seems pulls off a proper wow play. His athleticism is startling for a 31yo, just seems to explode up. Did not pay that much attention to his earlier career, makes me wonder just how athletic he was at 23/24, and why he did not establish himself an All Star caliber player, the raw materials are there.

 

[Gus Zing]

I think he should start.

Just move LeBron back to PG, but let Green defend pgs.

We keep starting to slow on offense. Should start until IT is healthy or Rose decided to play again.

 

[Jontibs]

I think he should start.

Just move LeBron back to PG, but let Green defend pgs.

We keep starting to slow on offense. Should start until IT is healthy or Rose decided to play again.

Like the idea but worry about disrupting the chemistry that the second unit has going, Wade, Korver and Green seem to mesh so well together. The last couple of years the bench seemed to be incapable of doing anything without LBJ babysitting them. Incredible turn around, think one of the reasons why Bron has been so good in the 4th Q is the energy he is saving, mental as well as physical, due to the excellence of the bench.

 

[LeeBuckeye]

Starting Calderon is pointless, he is a non factor on both ends. He had a good start during the streak but guys are finishing everything around him as he can’t stop dribble penetration.

It may screw up chemistry slightly but with IT/TT coming back we might as well try something because he gets beaten so badly without a screen that even help defense is nonexistent by then. Rotate JR/Bron/Green on point guards and then leave Green in for extended minutes to play with Wade/Korver/Frye until LeBron re-enters the game in the 2nd quarter.

 

[Heej]

Green is going to have quite a highlight package from this year, every other game he seems pulls off a proper wow play. His athleticism is startling for a 31yo, just seems to explode up. Did not pay that much attention to his earlier career, makes me wonder just how athletic he was at 23/24, and why he did not establish himself an All Star caliber player, the raw materials are there.

Yea I don't remember him being a mega athlete for a 24 year old but he's without a doubt a mega athlete for a 31 year old. It's really strange. I knew he was a pretty good athlete coming to the Cavs, I didn't expect him to be a GREAT athlete. He also didn't have a team with playmakers like LeBron and Wade on the floor with him at all times getting him easy buckets.

 

[Pioneer10]

Green is going to have quite a highlight package from this year, every other game he seems pulls off a proper wow play. His athleticism is startling for a 31yo, just seems to explode up. Did not pay that much attention to his earlier career, makes me wonder just how athletic he was at 23/24, and why he did not establish himself an All Star caliber player, the raw materials are there.

He was never a smart basketball player and got stuck into a tweener zone. Not strong enough or good enough from 3 to play the 4 and too slow/lack of dribbling to play the 3.

Cavs have essentially reduced his role to the 4 only off the bench and since the NBA is now going tweener all the time it's helped him solidify the role. In the beginning of the year you saw the Cavs trying to iso him which was a mistake and now they only get the ball to him on the move or he only has to do one move (shoot or attack the basket).

The simplified role has allowed some other areas to shine like defense which was a big surprise. He's taken over the RJ role well with Wade being our Iggy

 

[Cassity14]

Starting Calderon is pointless, he is a non factor on both ends. He had a good start during the streak but guys are finishing everything around him as he can’t stop dribble penetration.

It may screw up chemistry slightly but with IT/TT coming back we might as well try something because he gets beaten so badly without a screen that even help defense is nonexistent by then. Rotate JR/Bron/Green on point guards and then leave Green in for extended minutes to play with Wade/Korver/Frye until LeBron re-enters the game in the 2nd quarter.

I don't think he's a non-factor. LeBron doesn't like having to always bring the ball up and initiate the offense - Calderon takes care of that. He can can the open jumper and he keeps the ball moving.

 

[cavsfever]

He was never a smart basketball player and got stuck into a tweener zone. Not strong enough or good enough from 3 to play the 4 and too slow/lack of dribbling to play the 3.

Cavs have essentially reduced his role to the 4 only off the bench and since the NBA is now going tweener all the time it's helped him solidify the role. In the beginning of the year you saw the Cavs trying to iso him which was a mistake and now they only get the ball to him on the move or he only has to do one move (shoot or attack the basket).

The simplified role has allowed some other areas to shine like defense which was a big surprise. He's taken over the RJ role well with Wade being our Iggy

Very good analysis. Green is benefiting from the transformation of the NBA to a bunch of long athletic guys who can switch everything and play perimeter and inside -- tweeners, as you say. Green fits this mode pretty well; the only ingredients he doesn't have in the new NBA formula for success are shooting ability and offensive decision making IQ. But with the way we're using him and having him play off the bench against second string players those are minimized and his strengths really come out.

 

[Cavatt]

I don't think he's a non-factor. LeBron doesn't like having to always bring the ball up and initiate the offense - Calderon takes care of that. He can can the open jumper and he keeps the ball moving.

They stick with him on the 3pt like too

 

[letgocavs]

Love this guy. Is aggressive on offense and can finish.

 

[Real Deal]

Pathetic signing..

The 'pathetic' Jeff Green is a +7 off the bench while adding 10 points on 50% FG in 20 minutes. While improving the bench, he's improved the team's FT with him shooting at 83%, just based on last year Cavs had a bad bench, below average FT shooting, and now we're amongst the top. Green's talent mixed with LeBron and Wade feeding him has him shooting the best ever in his career.

Cavs have the #4th best bench and 1st in playoff teams, Uncle Jeff is a reason for this success.

Pathetic signing? More like a pennant winning move

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

More like a pennant winning move

While I love the Green signing, you reserved these very words for the Indians' signing of a Mr. Austin Jackson. Hopefully they prove truer in this instance than that one (not that the NBA has "pennants".)