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Good thing we held onto the Nets pick instead of getting a player to help LeBron in the finals.
Who was realistically available that would have turned a sweep into a series victory for the Cavs?

We would have blown our wad on a guy who didn't put us over the top and then been sitting here shitting bricks because we'd have no asset to persuade LeBron to come back.

After Kyrie requested out and the trade with Boston wound up being, um, not terribly successful, fans had to accept the fact that it was a lost year.
 
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Who was realistically available that would have turned a sweep into a series victory for the Cavs?

We would have blown our wad on a guy who didn't put us over the top and then been sitting here shitting bricks because we'd have no asset to persuade LeBron to come back.

After Kyrie requested a trade and the Boston trade wound up being, um, not terribly successful, fans had to accept the fact that it was a lost year.
Exactly..once "Your Cousins " got that achilles rip , that was it..I really feel they wanted him.
 
Who was realistically available that would have turned a sweep into a series victory for the Cavs?

We would have blown our wad on a guy who didn't put us over the top and then been sitting here shitting bricks because we'd have no asset to persuade LeBron to come back.

After Kyrie requested a trade and the Boston trade wound up being, um, not terribly successful, fans had to accept the fact that it was a lost year.

after summer 2016
 
Good thing we held onto the Nets pick instead of getting a player to help LeBron in the finals.
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Making it easier to beat LeBron and mock him is not going to go over well for Altman.

Still can't believe we did this half measure shit with the trade. It only setup a beatdown.

Unlike in 2017 this Warriors team actually faced adversity and had some flaws. SMH
This is why people hate the warriors, they are arrogant, cocky, big headed, cowardly cunts.

They are happy to mock lebron every chance they get yet shy away from the fact they had to recruit cupcake just go beat lebron and his lottery roster.

Fuck i hate those cunts
 
Who was realistically available that would have turned a sweep into a series victory for the Cavs?

We would have blown our wad on a guy who didn't put us over the top and then been sitting here shitting bricks because we'd have no asset to persuade LeBron to come back.

After Kyrie requested out and the trade with Boston wound up being, um, not terribly successful, fans had to accept the fact that it was a lost year.
Its not just fans...

LeBron's prime year just ended up being a lost year. That looks bad on the organization. A guy put up 34/9/9 in the playoffs and his 3rd best player was George Hill. Inexcusable.
 
Its not just fans...

LeBron's prime year just ended up being a lost year. That looks bad on the organization. A guy put up 34/9/9 in the playoffs and his 3rd best player was George Hill. Inexcusable.
I ask you again, who should we have dealt the pick for?

As bad a look as you think it is for the organization to hedge their bets, it would have been worse if they had panicked and flushed their only asset of value in some futile attempt to salvage what was clearly a lost season.
 
I have to believe that the Cavs already know what they can get in return for Love and/or the 8th pick in a deal. I assume that will be discussed with LeBron and it is either enough to keep him in Cleveland or it is not. I can't see them moving the 8th pick without a commitment as it becomes the first part of the rebuild.
 
I ask you again, who should we have dealt the pick for?

As bad a look as you think it is for the organization to hedge their bets, it would have been worse if they had panicked and flushed their only asset of value in some futile attempt to salvage what was clearly a lost season.
The moment it was determined it's a lost season may have been the moment we lost LeBron..

As @KilgoreTrout said the day of the trade...we needed to trade that pick immediately. Looking to trade the pick early was the best time to acquire a good asset. As @gourimoko said the moment we were getting an injured IT...we needed to trade him immediately (when rules permit it). His stock would plummet the moment he stepped foot on the floor.

It was a half measure. Koby/Dan thought they were getting a #1 pick so a lost season would be worth it.

Koby needed to figure out something other than just letting a prime year of LeBron waste. And I don't mean trading for Jordan Clarkson.

Cause now we're asking LeBron to trust a process (no pun) when there has been nothing to trust about Altman as GM.
 
The moment it was determined it's a lost season may have been the moment we lost LeBron..

As @KilgoreTrout said the day of the trade...we needed to trade that pick immediately. Looking to trade the pick early was the best time to acquire a good asset. As @gourimoko said the moment we were getting an injured IT...we needed to trade him immediately (when rules permit it). His stock would plummet the moment he stepped foot on the floor.

It was a half measure. Koby/Dan thought they were getting a #1 pick so a lost season would be worth it.

Koby needed to figure out something other than just letting a prime year of LeBron waste. And I don't mean trading for Jordan Clarkson.

Cause now we're asking LeBron to trust a process (no pun) when there has been nothing to trust about Altman as GM.
I'm not saying that Altman didn't fuck up, because he certainly did (his biggest mistake was not firing Lue when it was clear the ship he was steering was rudderless.)

My point is that trading the pick when there was nobody out there worth it would have been more organizational recklessness and managerial malfeasance. In that scenario you're looking at still losing to the Warriors and having no sure way of improving the roster the summer LeBron is set to be a free agent.

I've asked you twice now to name somebody who we should have traded the pick for, and you've failed both times to even throw a name out there...that's because you're well aware it was a dire situation and no one guy who was gettable would have swung the series in our favor.

The Cavs have made countless blunders over the years, and many this past one, but IMO holding on to the pick for a bigger fish this summer was the right move.
 
We should've traded the pick for Kemba. He's likely better right now than whatever player the #8 pick yields. If that player ends up being better than him, it won't be for at least 4-5 years, at which point the championship window is closed. Not trading it and punting on possibly the last LeBron season was a colossal mistake. The only way it won't be is if they manage to trade it for someone better than Walker and LeBron stays. The likelihood of that happening with dimwit Koby Altman as GM is very low.
 
We should've traded the pick for Kemba.
So we trade for Kemba and lose in the Finals anyways...then what? We're left with a roster LeBron KNOWS isn't good enough to compete vs. the possibility of renovating it in the offseason to the point where he THINKS it's worth coming back to.
 
We should've traded the pick for Kemba. He's likely better right now than whatever player the #8 pick yields. If that player ends up being better than him, it won't be for at least 4-5 years, at which point the championship window is closed. Not trading it and punting on possibly the last LeBron season was a colossal mistake. The only way it won't be is if they manage to trade it for someone better than Walker and LeBron stays. The likelihood of that happening with dimwit Koby Altman as GM is very low.
More was needed than just Kemba..what we don't know since we're backtracking is what the fine details were on the other supposed trades..remember several teams were surprised when the Cavs did the deal..Bucks/Suns were..
 
So we trade for Kemba and lose in the Finals anyways...then what? We're left with a roster LeBron KNOWS isn't good enough to compete vs. the possibility of renovating it in the offseason to the point where he THINKS it's worth coming back to.
The series would have been more competitive with Walker. A hard fought 6 game series would have left a better taste in LeBron's mouth than a sweep. Who knows, maybe we win. Crazier things have happened. Right now not trading the pick looks like a big mistake. An all-time great postseason was wasted because the rest of the team wasn't any good. However, they still have time to fix it. If they use the assets to revamp the roster in the offseason then I'll be happy to say that I was wrong.
 
The series would have been more competitive with Walker. A hard fought 6 game series would have left a better taste in LeBron's mouth than a sweep.

Although we'd have been left with no real way to improve for 2018-19 since we'd already have burned our only remaining asset of significance. That may have made it even harder to convince LBJ to stay than where we are right now.
 

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