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Would be curious to hear who you all prefer between Cam Reddish and Nassir Little at this point.

There’s a decent chance the Cavs would be deciding between the two.
 
Actual footage of @Sir'Dom Pointer looking at this draft class:

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Actual footage of @Sir'Dom Pointer looking at this draft class:

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I don't hate the players really. Like they are not great outside of Zion, but with a good scoutignm department I would be pretty confident that we would make a pretty solid decision.Thing is, we don't have a solid scouting department and the 2-5(where we pick if we don't get the 1st overall pick) is like a damn mine field...it's total crapshoot.

I have little confident in Barrett. I won't rehash it again. If we are selecting 2-5 I will be more confident with a player who isn't a freshman.

Cam Little can turn out fucking great, but I can't risk selecting him with the level of productivty that he has shown and certainly with his mental questions. It's too risky.

I love some parts of his game and he he has almost the total package if he puts it together.

I have very little info on Little. I doubt anyone is confident in him whether it's his own fault or not. And he certainly has a fault in some of it tbh.

Bottomline, it's a weak freshman class.

Truth is, I'm not that into basketball this year and that includes College basketball...(which I fucking watched religiously for years).
 
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Since he got a serious promo the last few pages.... :chuckle:

Second round prospect watch....dropped a 50 burger on em last night on only 26 shots.

I didn't catch this game live but pay attention to time, score and shot contest difficulty.

It's pretty fun to watch.

 
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Would be curious to hear who you all prefer between Cam Reddish and Nassir Little at this point.

There’s a decent chance the Cavs would be deciding between the two.

This coming from someone who just has never liked Cam.....even though he's been a god damn disaster on offense, I think I'd still take Reddish.

He's been really good on defense and most of the kind of spotty college defensive data I have seen intimates he can be a potential stopper at the NBA level......and he does just generally play really good defense via the eye test as well.

I'd reserve final judgement until Little logs some more significant minutes, which he will now get to do with the injuries UNC has sustained.......but Cam's worst case seems like a quality 3&D wing (although somewhat streaky), with offensive upside. I'm not even sure what you would peg Little at at this point.
 
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What about Brandon Clarke ? any thoughts? Dude is killing it.

He's also in that USG/ORTG quadrant with the projected lotto picks......the guys that appear there who are intriguing to me:

Kyle Guy
Brandon Clarke

Both are producing at a level that says they are underrated as prospects.

Guy is undersized but I think he has combo guard potential, so he's passable at a true 6'3", pending measurements. A second round player but has really heated up recently. Prospect a good team could snag late to provide spacing off the bench.....although I imagine he returns to school.

I admittedly haven't watched any of Clarke but he does pop up on many of the charts, in the same vicinity as other wings who are in the conversation for the top 15-20 picks. Just looking at his numbers, you'd really have to bet on his FT% improvement being real to project his shooting. His defense has been generally great though.
 
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What about Brandon Clarke ? any thoughts? Dude is killing it.

I've watched a lot of Gonzaga. He's a super interesting player, but has his flaws. He's basically a big playing in a NBA wing's body almost at about 6'8". People REALLY hype of his defense - which is legitimately some of the best there is on the NCAA level... but there are some issues there, starting with his size and reach. His strength is also an underrated issue not talked about a ton... he can get buried more easily than you'd expect inside. He is a great athlete though, and probably moves well enough that he can play the 4 with no problem.

Offensively is where I'm not sure what to think. He's basically a non-shooter and scores the majority of his points inside with a size advantage - something he won't really have in the NBA. He's a super smart player though (better than his ast/tov indicates), so I don't think he'll hurt you offensively besides with spacing. The feel for the game on the offensive end though won't really be that functional imo... I don't know when he'd really ever have the ball in his hands in an NBA level offense.

I think he can be a fantastic glue-guy, but I'm not buying into the upside hype that I've seen quite a bit of. He will turn 23 before opening night of his rookie season. To me, he is very similar to Gary Clark as a prospect. His combine measurements will have as much affect on draft slot as just about any other player I think. His standing reach will be super important for where I'd have him. If it's < 9'0" then I'd have trouble seeing him play much center in the NBA, where his offensive game would be best tailored.
 
Don't trust Clarke to become a very useful offensive player at the NBA level...his game is just too limited for a guy who's gonna be a 23-year-old rookie. Spending a lottery pick on a guy whose offensive ceiling is 3rd or 4th option seems foolish (but if the Cavs pick up a late first and he's still on the board, that's another story).

As for Guy, he's like the one player who my draft rater thinks is a worse defensive prospect than Howard :chuckle:
 
I've watched a lot of Gonzaga. He's a super interesting player, but has his flaws. He's basically a big playing in a NBA wing's body almost at about 6'8". People REALLY hype of his defense - which is legitimately some of the best there is on the NCAA level... but there are some issues there, starting with his size and reach. His strength is also an underrated issue not talked about a ton... he can get buried more easily than you'd expect inside. He is a great athlete though, and probably moves well enough that he can play the 4 with no problem.

Offensively is where I'm not sure what to think. He's basically a non-shooter and scores the majority of his points inside with a size advantage - something he won't really have in the NBA. He's a super smart player though (better than his ast/tov indicates), so I don't think he'll hurt you offensively besides with spacing. The feel for the game on the offensive end though won't really be that functional imo... I don't know when he'd really ever have the ball in his hands in an NBA level offense.

I think he can be a fantastic glue-guy, but I'm not buying into the upside hype that I've seen quite a bit of. He will turn 23 before opening night of his rookie season. To me, he is very similar to Gary Clark as a prospect. His combine measurements will have as much affect on draft slot as just about any other player I think. His standing reach will be super important for where I'd have him. If it's < 9'0" then I'd have trouble seeing him play much center in the NBA, where his offensive game would be best tailored.

How does he generate his defense? Help side? On ball? Mix?

His BLK+STL progression has been pretty wild:

16': 2.0
17': 3.7
18': 4.9

Both blocks and steals have increased year over year and this year is maybe most impressive....as his minutes have dropped by 15% and his BLK increased by 20% and his STL by 30%.

Again, I haven't watch him play but those are wild numbers.....especially with the increase in competition.
 
Don't trust Clarke to become a very useful offensive player at the NBA level...his game is just too limited for a guy who's gonna be a 23-year-old rookie. Spending a lottery pick on a guy whose offensive ceiling is 3rd or 4th option seems foolish (but if the Cavs pick up a late first and he's still on the board, that's another story).

As for Guy, he's like the one player who my draft rater thinks is a worse defensive prospect than Howard :chuckle:

NEver said anything about spending our pick on him. That would be foolish.
 
Don't trust Clarke to become a very useful offensive player at the NBA level...his game is just too limited for a guy who's gonna be a 23-year-old rookie. Spending a lottery pick on a guy whose offensive ceiling is 3rd or 4th option seems foolish (but if the Cavs pick up a late first and he's still on the board, that's another story).

As for Guy, he's like the one player who my draft rater thinks is a worse defensive prospect than Howard :chuckle:

That seems correct to me though......2nd rounders generally do one or the other well. Guy is more interesting to me this season because he has made a big leap inside the arc.

He just could not score at all inside the arc last season.....This year, he's gotten in to that 60% / 40% sweet spot for rim / mid range......both are smaller sample sizes but it has helped him create additional lightly contested 3's that have lifted his percentage, whereas last year he was just having to shoot under way too much pressure. Also, while not a great distributor, he has initiated a lot of UVA's offense this season......so he at least is a secondary ball handler as well off the bench.

With all that said, I think I care about 2nd round prospects far more than I should. :chuckle:
 
This coming from someone who just has never liked Cam.....even though he's been a god damn disaster on offense, I think I'd still take Reddish.

He's been really good on defense and most of the kind of spotty college defensive data I have seen intimates he can be a potential stopper at the NBA level......and he does just generally play really good defense via the eye test as well.

I'd reserve final judgement until Little logs some more significant minutes, which he will now get to do with the injuries UNC has sustained.......but Cam's worst case seems like a quality 3&D wing (although somewhat streaky), with offensive upside. I'm not even sure what you would peg Little at at this point.

The problem I have with Reddish's defense is that he's really only a good *perimeter* defender. He's pretty mediocre as a rebounder and shot blocker. Little seems naturally more versatile, and therefore has more upside in my mind defensively.
 

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