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Did anyone see HBK turned down a comeback vs Styles at WM? So sad on so many levels
 
Did anyone see HBK turned down a comeback vs Styles at WM? So sad on so many levels
I'm a HUGE HBK fan, but he said after WM26 he was done, he wasn't lying. He also needs a knee replacement and his back is still jacked. I'm glad he said I, I'd hate to see him go out there and Goldberg it for however long. Yeah, he can probably still do 80% of his normal stuff, but you know it would like stiff and just not like Mr. Wrestlemania.
 
Honestly it's bullshit they can't build a Wrestlemania card around the talent they have on the roster.

Relying on guys from the past can only take you so far.

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Honestly it's bullshit they can't build a Wrestlemania card around the talent they have on the roster.

Relying on guys from the past can only take you so far.

They could build a card around their current roster, they just choose not to. They try to promote 'Mania as a show for casual viewers, but the problem with that is that those people don't stick around to watch the weekly TV stuff, buy tickets to live shows, or subscribe long-term to the Network. Essentially, the WWE gives them Wrestlemania for free via Network offers, builds the show around them, and then they stop caring the moment the show is over.

It's a dumb business model.
 
Are there any wrestlers that are holograms yet? I think an undercard of two holograms wrestling each other would be a big draw.

Andre the Giant vs whichever Hart died in Montreal.

You could even end it with both of them dying again.

Think about it before you criticize...
 
They could build a card around their current roster, they just choose not to. They try to promote 'Mania as a show for casual viewers, but the problem with that is that those people don't stick around to watch the weekly TV stuff, buy tickets to live shows, or subscribe long-term to the Network. Essentially, the WWE gives them Wrestlemania for free via Network offers, builds the show around them, and then they stop caring the moment the show is over.

It's a dumb business model.
You know what bothers me about their business model more than other things...its their travel schedule of two brands. Both brands have a live event on the same night as televised weekly programing. If someone is paying to go to a live event on a Monday, they are pretty hardcore fans. Why subject them to missing out on your weekly tv show?

Not to mention their tour schedule is hell on these guys and just rotating it could save a ton on everyones "bump card".
 
You know what bothers me about their business model more than other things...its their travel schedule of two brands. Both brands have a live event on the same night as televised weekly programing. If someone is paying to go to a live event on a Monday, they are pretty hardcore fans. Why subject them to missing out on your weekly tv show?

Not to mention their tour schedule is hell on these guys and just rotating it could save a ton on everyones "bump card".

Agreed. This is especially true now that TV money is their primary source of revenue rather than house shows like in the past.
 
144 million live event revenue more than doubles their operating cost of 70 million. It should be higher at the end of this year As Smackdown , Raw, and NXT will
all have their own schedules. They still make more from live shows than they do merchandising.
Television brings in 241 million (34%) in revenue.
WWE Network brings in 168.3 million. Pay per view pre WWE network brought in 84 million in 2013+ 27 million DVD/blu ray sales. currently PPV and DVD brought in a combined 24 million and that's expected to continue to shrink
http://corporate.wwe.com/~/media/Files/W/WWE/annual-reports/2016.PDF
unless us live evet net revenue drops down below 100 million (its increasing not decreasing) Live events will continue to be a staple for WWE


Revenue increased 11% to $729.2 million, the highest in the Company’s history, including record levels of revenue from its Network, Television, Live Event, Venue Merchandise, and WWE Shop segments

Pay-Per-View Programming Beginning in February 2014 with the launch of WWE Network, WWE’s monthly marquis pay-per-view events are included as part of the network subscription. Inclusion of these events as a part of the subscription to WWE Network has resulted in significant declines in our Pay-Per-View revenues, and this decline may continue with the ongoing growth and expansion of WWE Network. Pay-per-view net revenues were $12.6 million, $20.6 million and $45.2 million, representing 2%, 3% and 8% of total net revenues in 2016, 2015 and 2014, respectively. In 2013, the last year prior to the launch of WWE Network, payper-view revenues were $82.5 million, representing 16% of total net revenues.

Live Events
(represents 20%, 19% and 20% of our net revenues in 2016, 2015 and 2014, respectively) Our broad and talented roster of Superstars allows us to perform in numerous domestic markets and take advantage of the strong international demand for our events. Live events and the associated programming produced at our live events are our principal creative content and production activities. Our creative team develops compelling and complex characters and weaves them into dynamic storylines that combine physical and emotional elements. Storylines are usually played out in the ring and unfold on our weekly television shows, culminating in our monthly marquis events which air on WWE Network and are also available via pay-per-view. In 2016, we produced 280 live events (excluding our NXT developmental division) throughout North America, entertaining 1.6 million fans at an average ticket price of $58.19. We hold many of our live events at major arenas across the country. In addition to providing content for our television and other programming, these events provide us with a real-time assessment of the popularity of our storylines and characters. In 2016, we produced 64 live events (excluding NXT) internationally, reaching 477,000 fans at an average ticket price of $65.85. These events were spread over several international tours throughout Europe, the Middle East, Asia, Latin America and Australia. Since launching NXT as a separate live event brand in 2013, it continues to grow into a global touring brand. In 2016, we produced 189 global NXT events, reaching 188,000 fans at an average ticket price of $37.32. These events include weekly taped broadcasts that are produced at Full Sail University in Orlando, Florida and air on WWE Network, as well as live event specials, such as NXT: Takeover. Additionally, the NXT brand held various live events throughout the U.S., as well as international tours in the United Kingdom, Japan and Australia. Live events net revenues were $144.4 million, $124.7 million and $110.7 million, representing 20%, 19% and 20% of total net revenues in 2016, 2015 and 2014, respectively.
 
I have a hunch Cena proposes after their match. Could be planned, or not, but I think it's coming.
 
A lot of people think this. There's a betting line on it.

Yup. It's been commonly theorized since the news hit that Cena would be teaming up with Nikki against Miz and Maryse a couple of months back instead of facing the Undertaker like was supposedly the original plan. This, by the way, is probably why the Undertaker came back to Smackdown around Survivor Series and said he was "team blue for life," only to never appear on Smackdown again. He was originally slotted to face Cena, and so they were setting it up with Taker coming to Smackdown, but then plans changed and Taker went to Raw to feud with Reigns (who the WWE wants desperately to be Cena).

This led to speculation that it would be Nikki's retirement match given her neck issues, and that Cena would propose at the end. Why else involve him in this feud?
 
Yup. It's been commonly theorized since the news hit that Cena would be teaming up with Nikki against Miz and Maryse a couple of months back instead of facing the Undertaker like was supposedly the original plan. This, by the way, is probably why the Undertaker came back to Smackdown around Survivor Series and said he was "team blue for life," only to never appear on Smackdown again. He was originally slotted to face Cena, and so they were setting it up with Taker coming to Smackdown, but then plans changed and Taker went to Raw to feud with Reigns (who the WWE wants desperately to be Cena).

This led to speculation that it would be Nikki's retirement match given her neck issues, and that Cena would propose at the end. Why else involve him in this feud?
It's a perfect ending to Nikki's career, her and John's story, and probably total divas.
 
Except for those of us who want the Miz to win :(

Miz should win, especially after Cena neutered him last night in their promo duel. It's going to be pretty awful if Miz doesn't get to win after he was totally emasculated on Smackdown.
 

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