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Man.. say what??

The New York Times is reporting Flynn may now be cooperating with Robert Mueller.

See above....edited my post for more info. Sounds like Mueller is wrapping up. Also heard Flynn in cooperati but unlikely to land anything close on Trump....

The Fusion GPS/Dossier deal looks insanely sleezy though. An absolute hit job and set-up.....with media complicit.
 
See above....edited my post for more info. Sounds like Mueller is wrapping up.

Yeah, no it doesn't.. That was largely leaked by the White House according to several major publications. That is, literally, word for word, White House spin.

Also heard Flynn in coooersting but unlikely to land anything close on Trump....

According to who? He's being investigated heavily, likely to be indicted, and Mueller is about to interrogate Hope Hicks an aide to the President. Mueller's questioning, according to numerous outlets, has been almost entirely about the President, and interrogating Hope Hicks has nothing to do with Mike Flynn, but again, the President's firing of James Comey.

The Fusion GPS/Dossier deal looks insanely sleezy though. An absolute hit job and set-up.....with media complicit.

Hit job? How is opposition research, paid for by members of both parties, a "hit job?"

Bill, I think you might be missing the forest for the trees.
 
Yeah, no it doesn't.. That was largely leaked by the White House according to several major publications. That is, literally, word for word, White House spin.



According to who? He's being investigated heavily, likely to be indicted, and Mueller is about to interrogate Hope Hicks an aide to the President. Mueller's questioning, according to numerous outlets, has been almost entirely about the President, and interrogating Hope Hicks has nothing to do with Mike Flynn, but again, the President's firing of James Comey.



Hit job? How is opposition research, paid for by members of both parties, a "hit job?"

Bill, I think you might be missing the forest for the trees.

Fusion GPS was being paid by the Kremlin to advance an agenda that anti-Magnetsky act.

While being paid by the Kremlin they shopped and paid journalists to run info that was being funded by DNC at the time. It's absurd....
 
Talk about a Thanksgiving gift for Trump....

Fusion GPS paid journalists before and after the election based on new documents. Unreal.....

https://www.investors.com/politics/...evelations-take-down-hillary-clinton-and-dnc/


Will Shocking New Fusion GPS Revelations Take Down Hillary Clinton And DNC?

Russian Scandal: The Fusion GPS mess just keeps getting messier. New court filings show that the opposition research firm that the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee hired to dig up dirt on Donald Trump also paid at least three journalists. For what? Was it part of a Democratic plan to spread fake news about Trump?

It may be that people are becoming jaded about the news emerging on Fusion GPS. But, increasingly, it appears to be the nexus of a massive campaign by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party for a post-election investigation into Trump's supposed "ties" to Russian officials.

Now come two stunning revelations that only make the Fusion GPS picture sleazier, if that's possible.

The Washington Examiner reports that Fusion GPS paid three journalists between June 2016 and February 2017. It came in an affidavit filed by Fusion GPS co-founder Peter Fritsch, who noted that the House Intelligence Committee had sought information "related to transactions between Fusion GPS and certain journalists.

Fritsch asserted that the payments in question "are not pertinent to work related to Russia or Donald Trump." Sounds clear cut. But the Examiner's Todd Shepard notes that "One of the documents filed by lawyers for the House Intelligence Committee said each of the three reporters who received payments had written about the Russia probe, which could indicate that reporters were using Fusion GPS's work to write their stories."


That would seriously undermine Fritsch's assertion. Moreover, in another filing, the lawyers maintained that Fusion GPS "brokered meetings for (Trump) dossier author Christopher Steele with at least five major media outlets in September 2016, including Yahoo news."

Did Fusion GPS intentionally mislead Congress? It seems like a real possibility.

Meanwhile, as has previously been reported, neither the FBI nor the Justice Department have been able to "verify or corroborate" the allegations of collusion between Russia and Trump that came from the Trump dossier.

More and more, it looks like a giant setup, intended to trap then-candidate Donald Trump into implicating himself in a plot to undermine the U.S. election. But it was Clinton and her bought-and-paid-for lackeys in the DNC who were in fact colluding with Russian officials.

We promised a second revelation, so here it is:

  • Daily Caller investigative reporter Chuck Ross reports that the U.S. law firm BakerHostetler paid Fusion GPS $523,651 from March 2016 to October 2016 to investigate Bill Browder, a London-based banker who was behind the passage of the Magnitsky Act, a set of U.S. sanctions that the Russian government strongly opposed.
And who paid BakerHostetler to make that payment to Fusion GPS? Russian businessman Denis Katsyv, through his company, Prevezon Holdings. Indeed, it turns out that Fusion founding partner and former Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson compiled the information for Katsyv.

This is yet another Russian link to Fusion GPS. The man whom Fusion paid to concoct the Trump Dossier, former British spy Christopher Steele, interviewed a number of Russian officials for his Trump research, and was paid $168,000 for his work by Fusion.

The picture emerges of Fusion, the Democrats and the Russians colluding to eliminate a wild-card politician that could be trouble for all of them.

Moreover, in a separate transaction, the Seattle-based law firm Perkins Coie paid out some $1,024, 408 between May 2016 and the end of that year, the records show. The biggest check was $365,275 made on Oct. 28, 2016, just days before the election.

And who was Perkins Coie? The attorneys for both the Clinton campaign and the DNC.

Again, the point is, the fingerprints of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party and Russian officials are all over the infamous Trump Dossier. But, as of yet, there has been no actionable evidence of actual ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

More and more, as we said, this looks like a classic setup — a rather clumsy one, until you consider that Hillary Clinton and the Democrats were pretty sure she was going to win. All of this would have simply been swept under the rug by deep-state bureaucrats in the Justice Dept. and at the FBI on behalf of President Hillary Clinton.

Based on this, we'll reverse the logic that the left has employed against Trump now for well over a year: If it turns out that the Clinton campaign and DNC not only funded Fusion GPS but also directly or indirectly colluded with Russian officials to subvert an American presidential election, they will be liable for criminal charges — and possibly jail time.

As for the three journalists we mentioned above, if they used this information as the basis of their Russia reporting, it will turn out to be a scandal from which U.S. journalism will have trouble recovering. The media is already held in such low repute by the public that it's hard to think it can go lower. But it can.

God damn... they wrote a lot based on something that really means nothing at this is point.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Although maybe someone could catch me up on the latest right wing conspiracy? I'm, admittedly, a little out of the loop on this one.

(Particularly since Trump used thanksgiving to officially confirm that Make America Great Again was intended to be racist. Fucking hilarious.
 
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Fusion GPS was being paid by the Kremlin to advance an agenda that anti-Magnetsky act.

While being paid by the Kremlin they shopped and paid journalists to run info that was being funded by DNC at the time. It's absurd....

First off, are you saying the Russians paid for the dossier? Secondly, what's absurd (honestly asking)? Why would Fusion GPS not work for the Russians at that time to investigate someone, anyone? I'm trying to understand why they'd turn that down? Lastly, why have you not mentioned that persons associated with the GOP also paid for the dossier as well?

I'm trying to get into your mode of thought here.. what exactly are you saying? That the Russians set-up Trump?

Do you really think that's a credible explanation for Trump and his behavior, including the firing of James Comey, as well as the undisclosed contacts of Kushner, Flynn and Manafort; three guys we've been talking about being stooges for how long now? Almost a year?
 
First off, are you saying the Russians paid for the dossier? Secondly, what's absurd (honestly asking)? Why would Fusion GPS not work for the Russians at that time to investigate someone, anyone? I'm trying to understand why they'd turn that down? Lastly, why have you not mentioned that persons associated with the GOP also paid for the dossier as well?

I'm trying to get into your mode of thought here.. what exactly are you saying? That the Russians set-up Trump?

Do you really think that's a credible explanation for Trump and his behavior, including the firing of James Comey, as well as the undisclosed contacts of Kushner, Flynn and Manafort; three guys we've been talking about being stooges for how long now? Almost a year?

I've talked about the Washington Free Beacon at length previously. But one thing that is really important:

Under oath, they claim they didn't have knowledge of the Dossier when it was deploying Fusion GPS....they claim the Dossier was only developed after the DNC took over. While they (Free Beacon/Singer family) had Fusion GPS under contract, there was never any contact with Christopher Steele. Steele was only utilized AFTER the DNC took over funding.

Goldfarb and Continetti, however, said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now-infamous Trump-Russia dossier, prepared by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS.

The Free Beacon said it stood by its deployment of Fusion GPS during the 2016 campaign and its reporting on the matter.

"We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce," Goldfarb and Continetti said.


The Free Beacon noted in its statement that it had “no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.”

“The Washington Free Beacon has issued a statement asserting that it had no involvement with Christopher Steele or the dossier he compiled from Russian sources,” Jack Langer, spokesman for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. “The Beacon has agreed to cooperate with the House Intelligence Committee to help the Committee verify this assertion.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/27/trump-russia-washington-free-beacon-fusion-gps-244265

But several other issues arise when coupling information released in the press, with the new knowledge that Fusion GPS met and paid journalists.

1. We now know with near certainty Fusion GPS was also paying journalists to push a pro-Kremlin agenda in regards to the Magnitsky act. Which is awful if true....the Magnitsky act has frozen the assets of over 20 Russian businesses that not only defrauded Russian citizens, but likely colluded in the murder of Magnitsky for being a whistleblower. For journalists to take Fusion GPS money, and then accuse Magnitsky of fraud, accuse William Browder of crimes (Magnitsky's boss), in an attempt to influence White House policy is shameful.

The news that the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid for research used in the discredited Trump-Russia “dossier” is a bombshell. But even more shocking — and overlooked — is the revelation that the firm the Clinton campaign hired to compile that dossier, Fusion GPS, is the same firm that has been accused in recent congressional testimony of launching a smear campaign in Washington against Sergei Magnitsky, the Russian lawyer who was tortured and killed in a Russian prison in 2009 after uncovering a $230 million tax theft by 23 Kremlin-linked companies and individuals close to President Vladimir Putin.

Which raises the question no one seems to be asking: Why was Hillary Clinton using an opposition research company with Putin-linked clients to dig up dirt on Donald Trump?

The claimed link that was identified in congressional testimony has its roots in the Putin regime’s lobbying for the repeal of the 2012 Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act, which froze assets and banned visas for Russians involved in or benefiting from Magnitsky’s murder, as well as for others involved in torture, extrajudicial killings or abuses against those seeking to promote human rights or expose illegal activity by Russian officials. So far, some 35 Putin cronies have been sanctioned under the act, infuriating the Russian president.

After the act passed, prominent Magnitsky supporters in Russia began to be mysteriously poisoned, thrown off buildings or shot on bridges in front of the Kremlin. At the same time — according to testimony by Magnitsky’s boss, Hermitage Capital Management chief executive William Browder, recently made to the Senate Judiciary Committee — Fusion GPS launched a lobbying campaign in Washington to repeal the Magnitsky Act by charging (a) that Magnitsky was not murdered and (b) that he and Browder were, in fact, the ones responsible for the tax fraud. Of course, Magnitsky was blameless, and Browder’s only crime was that he virtually single-handedly led the charge for passage of the Magnitsky Act — originally opposed by the Obama administration, including Clinton’s State Department.

One of the faces of the campaign to repeal the Magnitsky Act was the Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya (the same lawyer who famously met with Donald Trump Jr. in 2016). She visited the United States in 2016 ostensibly to lobby on adoption issues (Putin had barred Americans from adopting Russian children in response to the passage of the Magnitsky Act), but her real purpose was to push the repeal of the act and prevent the passage of a global law bearing Magnitsky’s name. Concurrently, Veselnitskaya defended Prevezon, a company sanctioned under the Magnitsky Act for laundering money from the tax fraud Magnitsky uncovered. Prevezon is owned by Denis Katsyv, a Putin-linked oligarch and son of a former Russian government minister.

In July, Browder appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee, where he testified that Prevezon “hired Glenn Simpson of the firm Fusion GPS to conduct a smear campaign against me and Sergei Magnitsky. . . . He contacted a number of major newspapers and other publications to spread false information that Sergei Magnitsky was not murdered, was not a whistleblower and was instead a criminal.” As a former Wall Street Journal reporter, Simpsonhad extensive contacts with his former media colleagues he could use to spread anti-Magnitsky propaganda.

In an interview with me, Browder alleged that “Glenn Simpson was trying, on behalf of the Putin regime, to cover up the murder of Sergei Magnitsky, knowingly lying to journalists in Washington to write false stories. . . . Natalia Veselnitskaya hired him to lie, and Natalia Veselnitskaya was working for Putin. So it’s pretty clear to me that this was a major Putin operation.”

2. Based on timing, it looks the FBI may have used this pro-Kremlin group, to secure the FISA warrants.

3. The Dossier first became public knowledge through yahoo news. Yahoo news cited a source that said the FBI had been given the Dossier. They then cited specific things within the Dossier. Once it was reported the FBI had received it, is when Buzzfeed ran with it.

4. Large parts of the Dossier have been proven untrue. Including dates of meetings and people supposedly in attendance, who were verifiably not in Russia, and clearly in the United States.

5. A lawyer (Natalia Veselnitskaya) working for the Kremlin (specifically Denis Katsyv) literally met with the founder of Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, 1-2 hours before her meeting at Trump Tower. She met Simpson after that meeting as well....weird, huh?

6. So the DNC and Kremlin are paying Fusion GPS at exact same time, while Fusion GPS is paying journalists money and leaking the Dossier, and that doesn't appear improper?

7. Why would the DNC lie about funding the Dosser for over a year?

I don't know....it sure sounds/looks fishy as hell to me. Fusion GPS files a restraining order against TD Bank so they wouldn't release financial transactions...they were trying to block the Senate Committee from seeing payments to journalists in regards to the Magnitsky Act. The fact that they're now on record as having paid journalists in regards to Dossier....it looks terrible.
 
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Yeah, no it doesn't.. That was largely leaked by the White House according to several major publications. That is, literally, word for word, White House spin.



According to who? He's being investigated heavily, likely to be indicted, and Mueller is about to interrogate Hope Hicks an aide to the President. Mueller's questioning, according to numerous outlets, has been almost entirely about the President, and interrogating Hope Hicks has nothing to do with Mike Flynn, but again, the President's firing of James Comey.



Hit job? How is opposition research, paid for by members of both parties, a "hit job?"

Bill, I think you might be missing the forest for the trees.

What? I missed this. Wow. Flynn is going to sing like a canary. He is facing a shit-ton of time stemming from his dealings as a potential foreign agent of, what two different nations, most prominently in the Ghulan kidnapping plan. Not good at all for Trump.

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Tiger Woods is golfing with Trump today and of course people are triggered about it.
 
It’s so weird having a president that consistently just makes petty lies such as this. He’s only fooling absolute morons with this shit, but it’s sympomatic of a much larger issue which is that this guy can’t manage to tell the truth.

He’s just lying to stroke his ego and it’s so commonplace now that this won’t matter in about a day. If any previous president did this it’d a massive gaffe highlight, this wouldn’t even scratch a top ten list for this assclown.
 
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