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I absolutely love that Jae thinks that the Celts are on the level of us and Golden State because they won some regular season games. Hey Jae, maybe you should worry about getting out of the first round. Brad Stevens must really have those guys brainwashed. :chuckle:

Boston's fourth highest salary next year is Tyler Zeller - two years at $8mil per (second year team option).

As for Jae, he can debate with Derrick Rose on whether Boston or New York will come out of the East & face Golden State. I nominate Amin El-hack-san to moderate this battle of wits.
 

They're locking themselves into what I think is a mediocre team tbh. Will have to rely on trades and internal improvement.
 

They're locking themselves into what I think is a mediocre team tbh. Will have to rely on trades and internal improvement.

I think that is a little harsh IMO.

Portland has a great coach, they have the core youth many teams salivate over, they improved their roster with the additions of Ezili and Turner and they have a collection of wing assets that are increasingly valuable (Crabbe, Harkless, Turner, Aminu). Allen is a great owner and their two best players are locked in long term (Lillard, McCollum).

If you look at the top 6 guys in minutes played:

1 - Lillard just turned 26
2 - McCollum is 24
3 - Aminu is 25
4 - Harkless is 23
5 - Crabbe is 24
6 - Plumlee is 26

I look at their roster and they have a lot of guys you can easily move as well as all their draft assets, I personally really like what they have done. A really young 44 win team that IMO got signifigantly better this off-season.

You can maybe argue the value extracted in contract negotiations with guys like Crabbe and Turner but they're a better team now than they were two months ago and management has committed to extending everyone important on that roster.
 
Jae Crowder holds the key to unlocking the Warriors? As if he wasn't coveted enough on this board.
 
Jae Crowder is a fucking joke. I literally laughed out loud for minutes when I read his comments.
 
I think that is a little harsh IMO.

Portland has a great coach, they have the core youth many teams salivate over, they improved their roster with the additions of Ezili and Turner and they have a collection of wing assets that are increasingly valuable (Crabbe, Harkless, Turner, Aminu). Allen is a great owner and their two best players are locked in long term (Lillard, McCollum).

If you look at the top 6 guys in minutes played:

1 - Lillard just turned 26
2 - McCollum is 24
3 - Aminu is 25
4 - Harkless is 23
5 - Crabbe is 24
6 - Plumlee is 26

I look at their roster and they have a lot of guys you can easily move as well as all their draft assets, I personally really like what they have done. A really young 44 win team that IMO got signifigantly better this off-season.

You can maybe argue the value extracted in contract negotiations with guys like Crabbe and Turner but they're a better team now than they were two months ago and management has committed to extending everyone important on that roster.

How did they get better? I think their additions are hindrances to them on the court, and correct me if I'm wrong but Harkless has not re-signed yet. I'd rather have him than Crabbe or Turner.

They should remain average to slightly above average, but there's nothing they can do about that. They don't have a superstar in a league where you need a few to win.
 
Portland has a great coach, they have the core youth many teams salivate over, they improved their roster with the additions of Ezili and Turner and they have a collection of wing assets that are increasingly valuable (Crabbe, Harkless, Turner, Aminu). Allen is a great owner and their two best players are locked in long term (Lillard, McCollum).

The problem is while Lillard is knocking on All-NBA talent, his running mate McCollum is, currently, ceiling at All-Star level. Everyone knows 99% of teams need two All-NBA talents for a legit shot at a chip. And remember, the cap will start sliding down following the next year.

They're basically putting all their chips on McCollum, and he plays the same positions (1 & 2) as Lillard, putting their versatility in a bind. Only time will tell but I'd say MIN & UTA are ahead of them in "long-term projections", simply due to the superior versatility of their best players.
 
You don't think a Lillard/McCollum/Turner 1-3 back-court is versatile and complementary? I guarantee Stotts and his system does.

Well, I don't think Evan Turner is a good basketball player that makes a positive impact. So, we're going to be a little bit apart on this one, I presume.
 
Nobody has shared this yet, but, it's a great article about Westbrook's situation in OKC.

http://espn.go.com/blog/okc-thunder...on-forcing-westbrook-to-decide-okc-future-now

A few days before Kevin Durant left for the Hamptons, he ate dinner at BOA Steakhouse in Los Angeles with Russell Westbrook and Nick Collison. Durant's two longest-tenured teammates were making their pitch, trying to convince the Oklahoma City Thunder's cornerstone player to come back, if only for one more year.

Westbrook didn't hold back. The conversation reflected their relationship: full of depth, emotions, respect, admiration and appreciation.

On the morning of July 4, Durant picked Stephen Curry and the Golden State Warriors, leaving Westbrook behind.

Westbrook has remained silent since. Interview requests have been turned away. There have been no tweets, Snapchats or Instagrams on the subject, whether about his future or his team. There was some chatter from his youth camp a couple of weeks ago, when he told campers he'd be back next season, but that's mostly hearsay. As speculation has grown around the league about a possible Westbrook trade, some have interpreted his silence as evidence that he's unwilling to commit long-term to the Thunder and is ready to move on to a new chapter.

But in actuality, Westbrook has been forced into his free agency a year earlier than expected. Effectively, he's making his 2017 decision now. He's either in with the Thunder, or he tells them he's not, and they trade him.

Westbrook is taking time not just to figure out his next steps, but also to lick his own wounds. Reports have come out suggesting Westbrook's style of play influenced Durant to leave, though Durant publicly denied that in Las Vegas recently. The two have not spoken since Durant's decision. Those close to Westbrook say he's both angry and hurt not only by Durant's decision to leave but also because Durant didn't even call to tell him personally. Westbrook wasn't prepared to be in this position -- three weeks ago, like everyone else, he thought Durant was coming back. And he had to learn the hard way he wasn't.

Westbrook has remained mum, but he and the Thunder have been in communication often since Durant's departure. Plenty want to hear from Westbrook, but he isn't going to play out his free agency in the public eye. There won't be any "I'll make that decision when the time comes" mediaspeak. It's not hard to gauge him when it comes to public comments; he's as transparent as they come. And with Durant now gone, Westbrook understands the gravity of his own choice -- he leaves, and the organization burns to the ground in a summer. So he wants to give them clarity to either move on with or without him.

Dion Waiters' qualifying offer suggests they're paving a way to do it.

(A brief explainer on a renegotiation of Westbrook's contract: Because the Thunder are now under the cap, they can "renegotiate" Westbrook's contract up to a max-level deal, starting next season. He's set to make $17.7 million, but that can go up to around $26.5 million. So while the rising cap would allow Westbrook to make more per year if he were to wait until free agency, with the lower projections, it wouldn't be as much as he'd make overall with close to an extra $9 million in his pocket that he otherwise wouldn't have.)

It's obvious to say, but the Thunder categorically don't want to trade Westbrook. They aren't interested in a teardown. Their priority is to convince him to stay long-term and reconfigure around him. That's why they've held firm thus far outside of signing Alex Abrines; they're paralyzed until Westbrook gives them an answer. They already have received plenty of calls about Westbrook, and thus far have told teams he's unavailable. According to sources with knowledge of the situation, he doesn't want to be traded. He wants to play next season with the Thunder. It's the year after that which is in question. There's a growing belief Westbrook will think heavily about an extension but will first weigh every angle before doing it. And with Waiters agreeing to terms with the Miami Heat, the Thunder can now officially present that extension to Westbrook.

It's an easy assumption to say Westbrook would relish taking over the alpha role of the team, but contrary to popular belief, that's not something he has ever wanted. He liked being Durant's running mate. It's why he put himself out there trying to sway Durant in Los Angeles. Westbrook had no issue deferring to Durant in crunch time. Westbrook cares only about winning, sometimes a little too much. But he's now facing the reality of carrying the burden of the franchise, of being the public face, of answering every media question, of recruiting free agents, of being the cultivator of culture, of leading a young roster in transition. It's a lot to consider.

Everyone wants to know what Westbrook is thinking. And eventually they will, because he'll have no problem making it clear. One way or the other.
 
Nobody has shared this yet, but, it's a great article about Westbrook's situation in OKC.

I mentioned this when KD announced he was leaving, combined with the slumping oil market, the Thunder are in danger of being sold and moved elsewhere.
 
Those close to Westbrook say he's both angry and hurt not only by Durant's decision to leave but also because Durant didn't even call to tell him personally.

As if a mountain of evidence doesn't already exist to prove what a bitch he is, the fact that he didn't have the courage to reach out and inform his close friend and longtime running mate speaks volumes about his character (or rather, his lack thereof.)
 
I mentioned this when KD announced he was leaving, combined with the slumping oil market, the Thunder are in danger of being sold and moved elsewhere.

It'd be fun to watch them go back to Seattle
 

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