1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

2017-2018 MVP Discussion

Discussion in 'Around The NBA' started by Ohio, Nov 21, 2017.

  1. gourimoko

    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    37,795
    Likes Received:
    51,226
    Location:
    Pasadena, California
    Kevin Durant is going to win MVP... FWIW.

    He's working on a 26/7/5, 50/40/90 season, will likely get there, and they'll very likely win another ring....

    Harden definitely had a shot this year, but don't think he'll get there; and KD is definitely #2 on the MVP list this year IMHO.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  2. czvo

    czvo Hall-of-Famer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    17,552
    Likes Received:
    22,009
    Location:
    Athens, OH/KC, MO
    KD is the guy that no one here wants to acknowledge is likely to take advantage of Harden's absence. He's already getting the defensive linchpin narrative.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  3. The Wizard of Moz

    The Wizard of Moz Punishing This Air

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2015
    Messages:
    12,940
    Likes Received:
    17,254
    Lol
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  4. Rich

    Rich Saucin'

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    27,522
    Likes Received:
    30,771
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Because CUrry isn't giving a zero effort. And his team isn't shitting the bed and getting blown out by 40 points and dramatically underachieving.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Rich

    Rich Saucin'

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    27,522
    Likes Received:
    30,771
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Rofl. Yea, LeBron just starting dogging it on defense last night. Not 2 seasons ago.

    Ooook.

    FWIW, the actual best player this season has been Giannis. But his team isn't good enough. And let's not act like that doesn't matter.

    If this team was 1st in the East, where it should be, or at most a game or 2 behind Boston, I'd have LeBron winning.

    But we are dropping games and a TON of it has to do with his lack of defensive effort. The entire reason Orlando made a game of it was because of LeBron.

    Every game now there's at least one play where he decides to stand and argue with an official for an ENTIRE possession. YOu can bank on him not cross halfcourt on defense at least once during a game now.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. gourimoko

    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    37,795
    Likes Received:
    51,226
    Location:
    Pasadena, California
    ????

    Who has a better shot right now than Durant?
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018
  7. Rich

    Rich Saucin'

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    27,522
    Likes Received:
    30,771
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Just hand him the MVP now.
     
  8. ACisKING

    ACisKING Gold Star Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2015
    Messages:
    3,160
    Likes Received:
    8,121
    @Rich is correct. LeBron can’t be the MVP if he is such a net negative defensively. I don’t care how good his offense has been.
     
  9. Cassity14

    Cassity14 Gold Star Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2012
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    3,691
    The drama surrounding the Cavs always has and always will negatively impact LeBron's MVP chances.

    He will not win one when the team collectively shows the uncaring, inconsistent mentality and effort.

    When you go out of your way to talk about yourself as the "leader," as LeBron does, this is simply one of the results.
     
  10. InBoobieWeTrust

    InBoobieWeTrust Savior of Humanity Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2008
    Messages:
    26,761
    Likes Received:
    53,890
    LeBron has the ability to go on a tear over the 2nd half of the season. He doesn’t deserve it now but we know he can turn it around if he wants to...

    If he wants to win the MVP I feel like the Cavs have to go like 29-12 or better with a couple signature wins and he HAS to defend better.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Rich

    Rich Saucin'

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    27,522
    Likes Received:
    30,771
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    There are a few thins that can make up for this:

    1) Your team is just amazing and you win like 65 games.

    2) You have that "they weren't supposed to be nearly this good," extreme overachiever vibe. Kinda like the Bulls when Rose won it.

    LeBron has exactly the opposite. His team is loaded and they're supposed to be good, but bonus, they aren't good at all and are currently underachieving by a significant amount.

    If this team was 30-9, he'd be the MVP even with his defense.

    If he had the 2009-2010 Cavs roster, he'd be the MVP.
     
  12. Nathan S

    Nathan S 33 is the new 23

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    8,568
    Likes Received:
    10,051
    Location:
    NY
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. Rich

    Rich Saucin'

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    27,522
    Likes Received:
    30,771
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    DeRozan is now in the conversation. Most efficient season of his career so far, by a good margin. Career best in assists, by a good margin.

    Easily the best player on the team ahead of Lowry now.

    They finish with like 55+ wins and his name should be in the hat.
     
  14. czvo

    czvo Hall-of-Famer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    17,552
    Likes Received:
    22,009
    Location:
    Athens, OH/KC, MO
    I think DeRozan gets hurt by being in Toronto and they're past playoff flameouts. He's been amazing, but I think they have to finish first in the East and go on some kind of tear for him to be a legit candidate.
     
  15. KilgoreTrout

    KilgoreTrout All-Star

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2009
    Messages:
    12,274
    Likes Received:
    7,009
    You can’t be MVP, if your team can win 90% of its games without you. Sorry. You just can’t.
     

Share This Page