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2017 Draft Prospects Thread

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Joe Schoebert looked good last night. He looked like the guy i hated at Wisconsin. They mentioned that the coaching staff told him to lose 15 pounds before showing up to training camp or he wouldn't be on the team. I know its only pre-season but he was making tackles left in right in space.

The amount of young (and hungry) guys on the defensive side of the ball has me a little antsy in the pantsy.
 
Kbiz said:
Joe Schoebert looked good last night. He looked like the guy i hated at Wisconsin. They mentioned that the coaching staff told him to lose 15 pounds before showing up to training camp or he wouldn't be on the team. I know its only pre-season but he was making tackles left in right in space.

The amount of young (and hungry) guys on the defensive side of the ball has me a little antsy in the pantsy.
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The end of Tank Carder is near. His injury last night also didn't help his cause. @Randolphkeys
 
Pick6 said:
The end of Tank Carder is near. His injury last night also didn't help his cause. @Randolphkeys
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There are three key second year players who are making the jump on defense and transforming the Browns into a team you don't want to play:

1. Joe the Show was my key player at linebacker a few months ago, and everything I hoped to see is happening. He is clearly the best middle linebacker in coverage, but has also been aggressive shedding blocks and getting after the ball carrier. He has distinguished himself as the best choice to round out the front seven.

2. BBC didn't have as much confidence from me I the offseason, and I've been proven wrong so far. With a smaller corner, I worry about physical play. He basically made Odel Beckham quit with two hard hits after completions. Williams likes guys who play with an edge but don't hurt the team and BBC has represented that mantra very well in the preseason.

3. Derrick Kindred is the player who hasn't shown as much as the others, but finds himself in a position to push the defense into top ten in the NFL. If you sit through some Big 12 football, you are going to see some bad defense and high scoring offense. TCU used to be the exception, a defense that tried to lock the offense down and hit aggressively. Kindred was a product of those defenses and I can see why Williams hopes he can become a starting free safety who hits like a strong safety. I haven't seen Kindred stake a claim to the position yet, but I'm pulling for it to happen.
 
AZ_ said:
Since I'm ripping peoples opinions on RBs, may as well throw some of my own guys out there.

2nd-3rd round:

Christian McCaffrey - The third best back behind Fournette and Cook for me, and I think he's a true three-down guy who I'd take at 33.

Kareem Hunt - Might be good enough for me to take anywhere from the middle of the second round on. Some call him too small, but he's always falling forward and picks up hidden yards. Does not fumble.

Alvin Kamara - Not a great fit for Cleveland because of DJ, but his athleticism and balance are elite level. Would excel on a team like New England who would use him in all sorts of ways offensively and on special teams.


3rd-4th round:

Jamaal Williams - For my money, the most underrated back in this class. Could start at the NFL level in year one, and be a 2-down, 1000/10 back with potential to improve in the passing game.

Semaje Perine - His lower leg strength and vision are superior to most others in the class. Let him get low and work through a tough OL and he can be a starter at some point.


Late Round Sleepers:

Chris Carson - Runs too upright at this point, but is a steamroller of a back and someone who gets North-South with authority.

Elijah Hood - Does not get enough credit, and is injured, but runs with a lower center of gravity and has enough lateral quickness to make me think he's got starter potential.

Donnell Pumphrey - Tiny, Warrick-Dunn look-a-like that cuts you to death.

Elijah McGuire - Surprised at the Senior Bowl, but seems to have a good handle on understanding where the holes are and how to get up and down
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Sad face.
 
I've been on a Hunt train for quite some time.

Good call on Carson.
 
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Triplethreat said:
Or I’m just calling you on your bullshit. :conf (11):
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Yep, a dead set giveaway for a serious post is whenever a sportscoach relative is brought into the picture.

And the first one literally just said Watson sucks. It was probably during a game. I can't put myself back in my old shoes and remember what I was thinking with that 2 word post in September of 2016.

I will own up to the fact that I wanted nothing to do with Watson in the first round. And he did surprise me a lot this year. He made me re-think the arm velocity test at the combine for sure.

I still wouldn't want him in the top half of the first round as I still think his style of play will age horribly. I think he has a super short NFL shelf life.

But sportscoach's gram, amiright?!
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
Yep, a dead set giveaway for a serious post is whenever a sportscoach relative is brought into the picture.

And the first one literally just said Watson sucks. It was probably during a game. I can't put myself back in my old shoes and remember what I was thinking with that 2 word post in September of 2016.

I will own up to the fact that I wanted nothing to do with Watson in the first round. And he did surprise me a lot this year. He made me re-think the arm velocity test at the combine for sure.

I still wouldn't want him in the top half of the first round as I still think his style of play will age horribly. I think he has a super short NFL shelf life.

But sportscoach's gram, amiright?!
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I think I may have struck a nerve. :hay:
 
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