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Real Deal said:
Did you see what the Cubs gave up for a mediocre lefty? Imagine what Gray goes for now, certainly not your idea scenario.
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You underestimate how good Quintana actually has been over the years though. He has a career numbers of 3.49 and has had 4 straight seasons of 200+ innings and is 28 years old. The Cubs paid for that Quintana, not the one who has been struggling this season. His first start with Chicago was 7 scoreless innings, so I am not doubting for this season that the Cubs got what they were trying to find.

Now the price of Quintana was not ideal for the Indians at all, but at the same time the Cubs gave up two top 100 prospects and two that didn't rank in their top 30, and Oakland is the hardest team to predict who they would actually want since they never go by the same scouting rules as a lot of teams do. That's why it may be possible to give up 4 guys in our top 20 rather than our top 2 guys and then 2 outside of our top 30 like the Cubs did. Oakland has a lot of issues and it may be better to move for 4 top 20 prospects rather than two top ones and two unknowns. It also depends on what other teams are willing to give up since Houston is in the same boat as us.

Looking at the top 30 list of the Oakland team via MLB.com, the A's likely will want a top catching prospect, a solid OF prospect and LHP so that would mean Mejia, Allen and Morimando (Which personally I wouldn't do since I like Mejia and Allen too much), but the other guys in the contest for Gray do not have good catching prospects, so we easily have Gray over the other guys when it comes to a bidding war.
 
sportscoach said:
I am not scared at all. I am giving honest takes which sometimes you take completely out of context just because you like to nitpick at everything I say. I would love to add Verlander to the roster, but I know it would never happen because of factors like trading price (aka prospects needed) and price per season.

You nitpicked at me for saying we were in on Gray and one of the next posts was from the rumor mill that the Indians were in on Gray. I understand quite well how a small market team works, it doesn't mean I cannot say guys I would like to acquire in here, and response to someone else's question with a theoretical answer. Regardless, I am not here for attention or anything like that, but you seem to give all of ours to me, rather than actual contribute to the forums. We all have our takes and opinions and if ya don't like mine then just ignore it. You know you are one of the biggest reasons why any casual fan hates posting in the Indians forum, but hey I guess I know nothing since the big AZ_ says so.
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If you didn't think it was possible to acquire verlander you'd have stopped talking about it like a page ago.

I have no interest in ignoring bad takes, I'm interested in commenting on them.
 
AZ_ said:
If you didn't think it was possible to acquire verlander you'd have stopped talking about it like a page ago.

I have no interest in ignoring bad takes, I'm interested in commenting on them.
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I just keep responding to bad takes who don't even know how to read what people say and reads like a pastor who skips bible verses to make the message he wants and not the one that is actually there
 
Urban said:
3.49 career ERA is mediocre?
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He's liable to get shelled, but he's also liable to throw 7 scoreless, and he's 51-54.

Maybe I was harsh on the mediocre, record speaking, sure . I was thinking his ERA was more close to 4 or higher until I looked.
 
Wouldn't look into his record playing on a mediocre team.

Cubs gave up a ton but they got what they paid for considering his below market team control. Same would be said for us with Gray, but we have less of a need than the Cubs who will likely let Arietta get his $80m+ elsewhere
 
john w: What’s a realistic timetable for Mejia to contribute in the next year and a half-ish? And what’s a reasonable expectation if he’s included in a deal? Not asking for names necessarily, just wondering what Cleveland’s options realistically are.

Keith Law: I’d demand a Quintana-level return. Mejia is certainly comparable to Eloy as a prospect, and you could argue he’s more value as a trade asset right now because he’s closer to the majors. If you believe Mejia will become even an average receiver/framer, then he might be the #1 prospect in the minors.
 
Count me out on Estrada, guy has no control right now. All of his starts since May have been awful
 
EdMonix11 said:
john w: What’s a realistic timetable for Mejia to contribute in the next year and a half-ish? And what’s a reasonable expectation if he’s included in a deal? Not asking for names necessarily, just wondering what Cleveland’s options realistically are.

Keith Law: I’d demand a Quintana-level return. Mejia is certainly comparable to Eloy as a prospect, and you could argue he’s more value as a trade asset right now because he’s closer to the majors. If you believe Mejia will become even an average receiver/framer, then he might be the #1 prospect in the minors.
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The Mejia thing is so weird... Like I get he's only got a half season in AA, but why can't he learn the pitch framing during a AAA stint? His bat isn't challenged.
 
DJTJ said:
The Mejia thing is so weird... Like I get he's only got a half season in AA, but why can't he learn the pitch framing during a AAA stint? His bat isn't challenged.
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They likely want him to work with Omir Santos and Tony Arnold for as long as humanly possible.

Double-A is generally a better breeding ground for development because AAA sometimes stagnates it given all the porous major league washouts and lack of big league talent.
 
Mejia yanked from Akron lineup after one AB.... he was DHing.

No word on what's going on yet

EDIT: Groin Injury
 
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