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2018-2019 Tank Thread

Discussion in 'Cavs Talk' started by Ohio, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. Ozone

    Ozone Rookie

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    what 2nd pick the 26th??? of course he won't be there,not sure how you got that from my statement.
    Bol is a top 10 lock unless he has a terrible foot issue far worse than expected.
    I would like to think Altman will get something for Smiths unique contract situation in the form of draft assets ,not sure it will be in this draft though.
    If he can get a pick around 20 for Smith by taking back a longer deal to match,he could possibly combine that pick and the 26th to get a protected pick in 2020 or a pick around 12-19 in 2019, but would probably be best keeping both picks and bringing in 3 rooks.
    I don't see anyone in the top 10 trading down in this one
     
  2. Nathan S

    Nathan S 33 is the new 23

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    Don't think Bol falls past 20 or so, but there are plenty of mocks that have him somewhere in the teens. Not much better than 50/50 odds to go top-10.
     
  3. HenryMuto

    HenryMuto Situational Stopper

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    With the new rules Cavs have barely over 50% chance to get a top 4 pick. NBA sure picked a terrible time to do a new system for the lottery.
     
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  4. HenryMuto

    HenryMuto Situational Stopper

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    2013 draft Cavs had #1 pick took Bennett the biggest bust ever meanwhile one of the best players in the game went at the #15 pick. Had the Cavs taken the Bucks superstar we probably would have won multiple championships and LeBron and Kyrie would still be here.
     
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  5. borgon

    borgon Towel Waver

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    yeah, but no one had Giannis in the top 5, let alone #1 overall. Of the people in consideration for the top pick, Dipo *probably* should have been the pick but he took years to develop and his fit with Kyrie and LeBron is questionable.

    it’s like bashing the T-wolves for taking busy Derrick Williams. Back then he was THE consensus #2 in the draft (some say should have went #1).

    But your point of Bennett being turrible is taken. Grant was such a shitty drafter
     
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  6. The Human Q-Tip

    The Human Q-Tip I want to be called "Loretta"

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    The sad thing is that Griffin admitted that he was guy pushing for Bennett, and that Grant was the one guy who didn't like him. But because everyone else on Grant's staff preferred Bennett, he trusted their judgment and drafted him. Griffin deserves credit for telling that story and accepting the blame for being fooled by Bennett and the Nevada coaching staff.

    But the ultimate decision is still on Grant.
     
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  7. weepinwillow

    weepinwillow the nba: it's faaantastic

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    There are always 6-8 good NBA players in every draft (high end starter to All Star) and they are picked at almost any spot. I keep making this point, but it is important. Of course you want the #1 pick and if not #1, then #2.. (etc) but the real key is knowing who's going to work out, who's not, and having the support system in place to both identify the ones who will work, and develop them to their potential.

    Honestly, I'm nervous. This is Altman's first real crack at spending an entire season working with scouts etc. to help identify the best NBA player prospects. It's exciting on the one hand (I love the approach on the coach in terms of potentially making this a good landing spot for young players to develop), but he could fail mightily and set the franchise back 6-10 years.

    When you miss high (and "still in his prime" Lebron doesn't show up to bail you out) your franchise could wander the desert for a long, long time.
     
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  8. WorldFreeB

    WorldFreeB Sixth Man

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    This becomes a real issue if the pick isn't top 3,,I don't think anyone complains about Zion at 1 and Morant/Barrett next 2 picks....its when we get to 4 or 5,,6 that things are going to get dicey.
     
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  9. Bucketz

    Bucketz Rookie

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    I hate that you are right. We should probably be expecting the worst and discussing the standouts for picks 4-6.
     
  10. CalBuckeyeRob

    CalBuckeyeRob In the Rotation

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    The draft is all about elephant hunting when you are not already in title contention. Workhorse solid players are likely useless long term. I didnt like the Bennett pick at the time but that draft lacked any consensus that could reasonably considered the clear choice at the top. At least this one has 3-4 that could be keepers. And position needs to be irrelevant. If he is worthy of a top 5 pick then he should be worthy of moving others to make him fit.
     
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  11. DeeThree

    DeeThree ZION!!!!

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    I'd be interested to see posters say who they would draft with the 4-6 picks.
     
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  12. chuck0609

    chuck0609 Sixth Man

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    Let’s give him a little credit. He drafted Sexton at 8, and he definitely looks like a keeper and future star now.

    I am erily calm with Koby and drafting. Let’s give him a chance.
     
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  13. weepinwillow

    weepinwillow the nba: it's faaantastic

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    I like the call!
    Murky waters picks 4-6, for sure. I lean Coby White, DeAndre Hunter & Jarret Culver.
    Think White is a solid compliment to Sexton, though I don't think I let Sexton being on the roster influence this pick. Quick release, nice start/stop/start, willing passer, NBA range, hair game +10.
    I think Hunter is the least likely to be a bust, especially at pick 6 (at pick 4, you might feel cheated if he only hits as a very good starter vs borderline All Star). Real high BBallIQ, does everything well, nothing seemingly great.
    Culver looks real smooth at times. What worries me about Culver is he reminds me of Jeremy Lamb, who at UConn often times looked like the best player on the floor, but once he got to the NBA never really figured out how to assert himself and is now kind of an "eh" SG.
    Cam and Rui I guess are my darkhorses. I think Cam may have suffered from Chris Bosh/Kevin Love syndrome, hard to adjust to 3rd, 4th banana when you've probably been decision maker 1 and 1A on almost all your teams up to that point. And I just didn't see enough of Gonzaga but Rui looks smooth with NBA range, can he handle well enough to play the 3?
     
  14. CleveRocks

    CleveRocks There go the Cavs!

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    The problem I have with White, Hunter, and Culver is i think they will evolve to pretty OK players.. probably.. if I were to stand any one of them next to Rodney Hood, I would be hard pressed to differentiate. I see a difference between them and Barret, but.. not between each other. In fact i would have Okeke as a better choice than all of those guys pre injury.. he is bigger, a better shooter, and a team defense guy..

    What has worked with sexton at 8, was his upside and desire to achieve it. He clearly had skills being the best player on a bad team, but he was also willing to work hard to get better..

    Thats why I am saying Goga maybe at 4, because if he succeeds he changes the equation.. or trade back and pick up maybe white AND Okeke, increasing the odds that one will achieve special..

    I also think picking up a 6 8 wing really helps us the most, because I think, cedi gets better opposite another 6 8 wing. Cedi has the handles to play 2, and with Sexton at the point the back court is going to be loaded. Or when you are resting sexton, you can use cedi and wing 2, or nance to bring the ball up and initiate..
     
  15. WorldFreeB

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    Phoenix and Chicago need point guards,,,one is going to take Morant and the other if they are picking between 4-6 will take Darius Garland who seems to be the clear cut second best point guard in the draft. All depends on where these teams line up after the lottery balls fly.
     
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