2018 Draft Prospects Thread

[Randolphkeys]

Himself and his agent thinking he's worth more than he is.

This. I don't want to take anything away from the work Crow has put in. How many Browns in the past two decades showed up with zero expectations and then put in the work to get better every year? It's a short list. Crow doesn't always make the right choices reading blocks, but he is much better now than he was three years ago. I'm no longer convinced he is going to kill a drive with a fumble. Additionally, I can't remember a back who had stone hands becoming a capable receiver in three years the way Crow has improved. Dude is, without question, working hard at his craft. The problem is similar to Delly last summer: if Crow isn't a financial priority due to the position he plays, it only takes one team to overpay.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Who gives a shit about Crowell? Decent RBs are a dime a dozen in the NFL. He's not a generational talent. He's a solid back. Those can be replaced on day two or three of the draft. And if you have a good offensive line, even shittier backs can look good.

I say let him have his good year, let someone else overpay him, and use one of our five hundred draft picks to replace him.

 

[Kbiz]

Who gives a shit about Crowell? Decent RBs are a dime a dozen in the NFL. He's not a generational talent. He's a solid back. Those can be replaced on day two or three of the draft. And if you have a good offensive line, even shittier backs can look good.

I say let him have his good year, let someone else overpay him, and use one of our five hundred draft picks to replace him.

I understand the reasoing but our RB carousel has been almost as embarrassing as our QB carousel since our return. It'd be nice to establish a semblance of reliability there. Outside of two great years from Lewis and an anomaly season from Hillis, it's been brutal. I like Crow because he is still very young, has shown improvement each year, and last year flashed the ability to be capable pass receiving back as well.

With that said, if Crow's ask is stupid high at the end of the season, I understand the sentiment. It's a risky position to invest in, especially with the changing landscape of today's NFL.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I understand the reasoing but our RB carousel has been almost as embarrassing as our QB carousel since our return. It'd be nice to establish a semblance of reliability there. Outside of two great years from Lewis and an anomaly season from Hillis, it's been brutal. I like Crow because he is still very young, has shown improvement each year, and last year flashed the ability to be capable pass receiving back as well.

With that said, if Crow's ask is stupid high at the end of the season, I understand the sentiment. It's a risky position to invest in, especially with the changing landscape of today's NFL.

It's been brutal because our offensive lines have typically been unspectacular, and we've blown picks on guys like Richardson who need a seeing eye dog to find a hole in the line. Decent RBs in the NFL are a dime a dozen. Every year stars get hurt and guys step up and produce in a relatively similar capacity. Unless you've got a generational talent, you can always find serviceable backs on days two and three. And with a good line, all you really need is a serviceable back.

Also, investing in guys with a ton of talent at the position is largely pointless until you put together a good O-line. Look at Todd Gurley. I think we can all agree that he's a great talent, but he doesn't look like it on the Rams. Meanwhile, Zeke Elliot is a similar level prospect and looks like AP behind that Dallas line. We're doing it the right way presently, getting our line in order before we worry about investing in such a volatile position. Get the guys in place to protect your star RB, then draft your star RB. Do it the other way around and you risk him breaking down before you get the line in place.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

At the end of the season, Crow is going to get offers based on how well he played. If he does well, great. We've got cap room and can re-sign him to a level warranted by his performance. If he doesn't, or if someone else makes him an excessive offer, let him go.

I kind of like the idea of 2017 being the year he is running for his contract instead of being the year he just got one.

 

[Jack Brickman]

At the end of the season, Crow is going to get offers based on how well he played. If he does well, great. We've got cap room and can re-sign him to a level warranted by his performance. If he doesn't, or if someone else makes him an excessive offer, let him go.

I kind of like the idea of 2017 being the year he is running for his contract instead of being the year he just got one.

And as I said, if he wants more than we feel he's worth, cut him loose and draft a replacement. The RB position always has rookies ready to contribute, whereas most other positions have a steeper learning curve.

 

[sportscoach]

I would take back Crowell as long as we aren't over paying for him. Otherwise with a ton of picks and cap space we can easily replace him so his leverage may not be as strong as he is hoping. It would be nice though to keep consistency at the position since Crowell and Duke seem to be a nice mix.

How good is the class of 18 projected in RBs? I know I have seen some names, bit I am curious how the class is looking overall.

 

[Lee]

I would take back Crowell as long as we aren't over paying for him. Otherwise with a ton of picks and cap space we can easily replace him so his leverage may not be as strong as he is hoping. It would be nice though to keep consistency at the position since Crowell and Duke seem to be a nice mix.

How good is the class of 18 projected in RBs? I know I have seen some names, bit I am curious how the class is looking overall.

What good is cap space if we dont eventually use it.

I rather not draft a RB if we can avoid and use the draft picks for depth at other positions.

Crowell will test the market again, but i think he can come back on a decent deal. We can draft a RB in 2 or 3 years when Crowell starts to decline, i just think Crowell is being under rated some and is a very solid RB.

 

[ajz20]

What good is cap space if we dont eventually use it.

I rather not draft a RB if we can avoid and use the draft picks for depth at other positions.

Crowell will test the market again, but i think he can come back on a decent deal. We can draft a RB in 2 or 3 years when Crowell starts to decline, i just think Crowell is being under rated some and is a very solid RB.

I still think we can grab another rb in rounds 2 or 3 or even 4 with one of our extra round picks. I think we could use another rb long term with or without him. Depends on value, but this looks like a good deep rb class.

 

[Lee]

I still think we can grab another rb in rounds 2 or 3 or even 4 with one of our extra round picks. I think we could use another rb long term with or without him. Depends on value, but this looks like a good deep rb class.

We need so much though and rb just is not a priority to me.

Depth in secondary at all positions and depth at LB....that should 4 top picks there, we are that thin.

Depth at WR, really have zero, might need to go first round.

Blocking tight end, so 4-5th round

And depth at rb including a depth center.

Maybe QB in the first, we shall see.

Then we can look at rb. We just need so much more. Only position without a need is DL, but so many holes to fill and RB we are pretty solid. Rather just not use a pick next year.

 

[ajz20]

We need so much though and rb just is not a priority to me.

Depth in secondary at all positions and depth at LB....that should 4 top picks there, we are that thin.

Depth at WR, really have zero, might need to go first round.

Blocking tight end, so 4-5th round

And depth at rb including a depth center.

Maybe QB in the first, we shall see.

Then we can look at rb. We just need so much more. Only position without a need is DL, but so many holes to fill and RB we are pretty solid. Rather just not use a pick next year.

True on all those but this is why we collected extra draft picks. A RB has the ball in thier hands 20 to 25 times, plus is a Critical pass protector. I think a third or second rounder is not out of the question with or without Crowell. If Crowell stays I think you wait until rounds 4 or 5.

 

[AZ_]

View: https://twitter.com/gregpickel/status/886255692310556678

 

[Lee]

View: https://twitter.com/gregpickel/status/886255692310556678

I might go against what I said and consider him in the first if our qb situation looks stable. He is going to be special.

 

[Sebastian]

I might go against what I said and consider him in the first if our qb situation looks stable. He is going to be special.

I agree.

There are a good number of decent backs. There are few every-down backs who can hit a HR on the ground or through the air who have strength and finesse. He even blocks well.

If they don't need a QB and they have a top-five pick it should be Barkley.

 

[Soar]

Man I really hope Kizer is good.

Because if we don't need to go QB, wow this is a great draft to have 2 firsts.