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2018 Midterm Elections

Discussion in 'RCF Politics' started by King Stannis, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. KI4MVP

    KI4MVP formerly LJ4MVP

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    So the deck remains stacked against one side.

    The deadline to recount votes is no problem at all for lower population counties that tend to vote for one side, but is too early to finish recounting votes for higher population counties that vote the other way.

    Florida blocked allowing time to recount the votes in Palm Beach County, where they have to recount 584,000 ballots, enough that the machines are overheating trying to complete it.
     
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  2. Phills14

    Phills14 Cleveland Sports Fan Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't understand artificial timelines. Do the recount. Count all the votes. Be transparent and open about the process. Get it right. Certify the results. Declare the winner with absolute certainty. WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING HARD?
     
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  3. KI4MVP

    KI4MVP formerly LJ4MVP

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    Because one side knows it helps their chances of winning to suppress voting in high population areas.
     
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  4. KI4MVP

    KI4MVP formerly LJ4MVP

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    More penalizing voters for being in high population areas. Broward County had their recount rejected because they reported it 2 minutes late. The guy in charge said it was late because he was unfamiliar with the web site he had to use to report it.

    So no recount used in the two most populated counties in the state. Now they are doing a state wide hand recount. Who wants to bet that the deadline is too early for the same counties to finish that in time.

    The whole voting system is so archaic. How can we still be voting using a system where reading the same votes twice gives two different vote totals? I keep using banking as an example because it proves this nonsense should be unacceptable. Imaging if your bank kept changing the record how much you spent so you didn't know how much money you had from one hour to the next.

    Maybe change is coming, I saw West Virginia allowed people voting from overseas to vote with an app on their phone.
     
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  6. gourimoko

    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

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  7. King Stannis

    King Stannis The One True King

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    State GOPs do this all the time.

    When I was living in Minnesota in 2012, after campaigning on the economy, the first item on the agenda for their new majority was a ban on Gay Marriage, and a partial-birth abortion ban.

    The same rural people got angry with them for that and their lack of focus on jobs but voted them back in again all the same. Can’t vote Democrat, ever.

    I suppose it works out though. The GOP is essentially a social issue party now considering they no longer adhere to any coherent ideological or executable economic message.
     
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  8. CleveRocks

    CleveRocks There go the Cavs!

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    They are feeding the base..a requirement to get through the primary.. most of the laws wont pass or survive court challenges, which the lawmakers well understand.. This part of the party view Kasich as a Rino, and will not support his national ambition.. If a moderate party forms, kasich will be a major player in it..
     
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    TJ Cox defeats California Rep. David Valadao, Democrats flip 40 in the House
    by Daniel Chaitin
    | November 28, 2018 02:32 PM

    As a result, House editor of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report Dave Wasserman announceda projection Wednesday: "T.J. Cox (D) has defeated Rep. David Valadao (R) in #CA21, an upset that brings Dems to a *40 seat* gain overall. Final House breakdown: 235D, 200R."

    He was followed by the Los Angeles Times and Decision Desk HQ, a website which calls elections, which tweeted: "It is over for Congressman David Valadao in #CA21. His best county's provisionals reported today, and broke for the Democrat, TJ Cox. Outstanding votes are going to be more of the same. That makes a forty seat gain for the Democratic Party in the House of Representatives."

    The Democrats also declared victory after King County, which is considered a GOP stronghold, showed a final tally going Cox's way.

    "With an additional 1,438 ballots counted in King County today, Cox actually INCREASED his lead by a net 70 votes. This brings his total lead to 506 votes. This race is over people. And means Dems will ultimately flip 40 seats in 2018 midterms," tweeted Meredith Kelly, communications director for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    Cox later put out a statement, calling himself the "Rep.-elect" and thanking Valadao and his family for six years of service.
     
  10. Green Demon

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    Couldn't remember which thread we had been talking about in but its ridiculous that they are pushing this BS through in a lame duck session as the other party comes into office.

    In Stunning Power Grab, Wisconsin Republicans Pass Bill Weakening New Governor



    I can't say that I know a ton about the average voter in Wisconsin but could anyone else see this truly biting the Repubs in the ass sure they might get short term satisfaction but hurt them in the long run if voters actually care enough about what is being done.

    Also the last paragraph should be insane to me but honestly not that surprised that the Republicans are able to have super-majority control of both houses of their legislative branch yet register a minority of overall votes in the contests. Can we please do something about gerrymandering, it seems pretty undemocratic to have the majority of a state represented by a party that a majority of the state didn't vote for.
     
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    Republicans can’t win without cheating now a days.
     
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    Another day, another group of Republicans trying to limit the future power of a Dem Gov. because they can't handle the transition of power like normal people.

    Michigan GOP moves to strip Democratic officeholders' power



    Again with the short term gains, I really think this kind of maneuvering is absolutely going to be hammered home again once elections swing around. Obviously the base isn't going to be swayed away from the party just because of this but those critical swing voters in the these places, in Wisconsin and Michigan, could frown upon action like this and be crucial in the next important election.
     
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    AZ_ Hall-of-Famer

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    This time in American history has proven one thing thus far.

    Conservative legislators by and large do not give one shit about democracy. States like Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, they can't even honestly describe their governments as a democracy any longer.
     
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  14. Green Demon

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    Just adding to the pile...

    Wisconsin Republicans Approve 82 Scott Walker Appointees In 1 Day



    https://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-republicans-approve-82-scott-222717009.html
     
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