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2018 NFL Draft - Day 2 Thread

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For the first time in years I am excited about an NFL season. Last time was with Brian Hoyer.

It feels like we are finally taking analytics seriously. Hyde has constantly been underused throughout his career, Tyrod is a solid bridge, our receiving core is stacked, and most advanced analytics have Mayfield, Ward, and Chubb as some of the best respective players at their positions 3-5 years out.

Now, analytics in football are far less developed than in the NBA and MLB, are are more on par with European football. But I at least feel like we have a strategy and are sticking to it.

I can’t wait for NFL Sundays.
 
I believe the idea with him is he'll be the starting LT soon if not week 1.
 
Based on what? Measurables? It’s certainly not because of his technique, I’d say.

Defenses are throwing out more agile edge defenders; you have to adapt a little bit rather than be hard-lined on specific height and weight.
 
jking948 said:
For the first time in years I am excited about an NFL season. Last time was with Brian Hoyer.

It feels like we are finally taking analytics seriously. Hyde has constantly been underused throughout his career, Tyrod is a solid bridge, our receiving core is stacked, and most advanced analytics have Mayfield, Ward, and Chubb as some of the best respective players at their positions 3-5 years out.

Now, analytics in football are far less developed than in the NBA and MLB, are are more on par with European football. But I at least feel like we have a strategy and are sticking to it.

I can’t wait for NFL Sundays.
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I think they are doing a good job of marrying the analytics model to pure scouting viewpoints.

They watch an ungodly amount of tape, identify real football players as a group, and then delve into what DePodesta’s bunch says about the players as another means to justify their gut decisions.

Just such a collaboration of all available information.
 
jking948 said:
For the first time in years I am excited about an NFL season. Last time was with Brian Hoyer.

It feels like we are finally taking analytics seriously. Hyde has constantly been underused throughout his career, Tyrod is a solid bridge, our receiving core is stacked, and most advanced analytics have Mayfield, Ward, and Chubb as some of the best respective players at their positions 3-5 years out.

Now, analytics in football are far less developed than in the NBA and MLB, are are more on par with European football. But I at least feel like we have a strategy and are sticking to it.

I can’t wait for NFL Sundays.
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So it took...firing the analytics guys.

To start finally taking full advantage of analytics.

This is some next level shit!
 
Chris said:
So it took...firing the analytics guys.

To start finally taking full advantage of analytics.

This is some next level shit!
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They didn’t fire the analytics guys.

Just the lawyer.
 
Juice Is Loose said:
Analytics is behind ALOTTTTT of the moves they make.
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Yep, outside of the last few picks, most of the signings and draft picks were analytically-motivated.

-E.J. Gaines, T.J. Carrie, and Briean Boddy-Calhoun are some of the highest ranked yards/cover snap rank players in the NFL.

-Tyrod Taylor and Carlos Hyde are both players that, at current usage levels, are solid players. But, a lot of people think they were underutilized. Thus it is very low risk, with moderately high reward.

-Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward, and Nick Chubb were analytics darlings. PFF and STATS LLC loved them for all of the same reasons the Browns do. In fact, I would not be surprised if Mayfield and Ward were numbers 1 and 2 respectively on the Browns' draftboard, and Chubb being the second or third best runningback.

-Austin Corbett and Genard Avery are both specialists who excel at a few specific, important aspects of their position. Corbett prevents sacks and Avery creates them.

-Antonio Calloway is a classic analytics pick because he fell for non-football reasons.

In Cleveland, analytics is alive and better than ever. The weirdest rumor was that Dorsey disliked analytics. The answer could not be farther from the truth.
 
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Chris said:
So it took...firing the analytics guys.

To start finally taking full advantage of analytics.

This is some next level shit!
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Just imagine... At the podium after the Browns Super Bowl parade, Baker invites Dorsey up to speak... Upon reaching the podium, he says 'I never could have done it without my best scout'... He then thrusts his graphing calculator into the air as the crowd erupts...
 
Callway is Josh Gordon 2.0 isn't he?

Which isn't...-bad-. We do need to find a way to keep both of them on the straight and narrow though.

I love the idea of having an insane amount of weapons on offense. In the same manner that the Palmer/Davis regimes terrify me for their lack of offensive lineman? The Mangini/Shurmer/Pettine regimes ignoring such positions scare the hell out of me as well.

Let's make sure this works out.
 
Juice Is Loose said:
Analytics is behind ALOTTTTT of the moves they make.
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Was Saquon ever in consideration for the Browns with #4? I was resigned to him being the pick if he was available, but given the way analytics seems to have influenced our moves, I'm beginning to doubt we would have taken him.
 
If that’s indeed the case then I have to think he and his boys weren’t too crazy about a guy that gains or loses nothing more than any of his peees in the draft — by a noticeable margin.

Taking Barkley that high would have been antithetical imo

I’ve slammed that drum enough though
 
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