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Giants are going nowhere without an offensive line.
The fuck?
It’s definitely not because of him. Come on what a shit ass take.
Worth every bit of #2 IF you have your QB but the Giants simply don’t right now.
Special ass player.
#1 I never said it was because of him. I said he has played amazing and THEY STILL SUCK.
Why? Because they have a bad Oline and a shitty QB. Two positions they could have greatly improved where they picked. Instead they picked a RB who (even when he dominates) does little to help them win as constructed.
Very few teams picking in the top 2-3 have their QB (outside of an injury season).
It was a dumb pick because EVERYBODY knew they didn't have a QB. It would have been just as dumb for the Browns to pick him without our QB. You can't win long term in today's NFL without a good QB (unless you have an all-timer D like the Jags).
There's few scenarios where picking a RB in the top 5 (let alone top 2) is a good idea. Maybe one where you already have your QB and a solid D/line. But the Giants are not that team. Top 5 Rb automatically get paid like they are a top 5 RB in the NFL and the position is not all that important (especially compared to replacement players) unless your team is already stacked.
Barkley was never the better choice. The shelve life of an NFL RB is too short to invest that kind of draft capital in. I was absolutely thrilled when I heard that NY had taken him. Meant we were never going to be at risk of drafting him. As it is, we ended up with the best offensive and best defensive players in this past draft, nothing to have to try to look towards second guessing. Time to just enjoy their progress week to week and look forward, not back.I’m sorry but getting a playmaker that is THIS elite is worth it fully to me.
If you can address QB next season your offense now has been taken to the next level.
Anyways, I think it’s a pretty good debate as to whether Barkley or Ward would have been the better pick at the #4 pick had he made it there.
Still think Ward would be better, but giving Mayfield Barkley is something I wouldn’t just bat an eye at. That special.
Make no mistake...
The Giants didn't draft Barkley under the guise that they'd be horrible in 2018 and find Eli's replacement at the top of the 2019 draft.
They absolutely thought they'd be fighting for a playoff spot by surrounding Eli with better skill position guys and better offensive linemen.
God forbid they don't end up with a good rookie QB next year.
Make no mistake...
The Giants didn't draft Barkley under the guise that they'd be horrible in 2018 and find Eli's replacement at the top of the 2019 draft.
They absolutely thought they'd be fighting for a playoff spot by surrounding Eli with better skill position guys and better offensive linemen.
God forbid they don't end up with a good rookie QB next year.
Goff is showing what happens when you get away from a terrible head coach. Hopefully Baker is blessed with the same.
Really need to surround our franchise QB with competence, or he could end up the next Andrew Luck. Ruined.
Honestly probably the worst thing that could’ve happened to that franchise was beating Pittspuke last year in the playoffsJacksonville starting to look like a stinker. Just can only go so far with a Bortles at QB.
If that defense regresses, they're in trouble.