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2018 NFL SEASON Thread

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Giants are going nowhere without an offensive line.
 
The fuck?

It’s definitely not because of him. Come on what a shit ass take.

Worth every bit of #2 IF you have your QB but the Giants simply don’t right now.

Special ass player.

#1 I never said it was because of him. I said he has played amazing and THEY STILL SUCK.

Why? Because they have a bad Oline and a shitty QB. Two positions they could have greatly improved where they picked. Instead they picked a RB who (even when he dominates) does little to help them win as constructed.

Very few teams picking in the top 2-3 have their QB (outside of an injury season).
It was a dumb pick because EVERYBODY knew they didn't have a QB. It would have been just as dumb for the Browns to pick him without our QB. You can't win long term in today's NFL without a good QB (unless you have an all-timer D like the Jags).

There's few scenarios where picking a RB in the top 5 (let alone top 2) is a good idea. Maybe one where you already have your QB and a solid D/line. But the Giants are not that team. Top 5 Rb automatically get paid like they are a top 5 RB in the NFL and the position is not all that important (especially compared to replacement players) unless your team is already stacked.
 
#1 I never said it was because of him. I said he has played amazing and THEY STILL SUCK.

Why? Because they have a bad Oline and a shitty QB. Two positions they could have greatly improved where they picked. Instead they picked a RB who (even when he dominates) does little to help them win as constructed.

Very few teams picking in the top 2-3 have their QB (outside of an injury season).
It was a dumb pick because EVERYBODY knew they didn't have a QB. It would have been just as dumb for the Browns to pick him without our QB. You can't win long term in today's NFL without a good QB (unless you have an all-timer D like the Jags).

There's few scenarios where picking a RB in the top 5 (let alone top 2) is a good idea. Maybe one where you already have your QB and a solid D/line. But the Giants are not that team. Top 5 Rb automatically get paid like they are a top 5 RB in the NFL and the position is not all that important (especially compared to replacement players) unless your team is already stacked.

I’m sorry but getting a playmaker that is THIS elite is worth it fully to me.

If you can address QB next season your offense now has been taken to the next level.

Anyways, I think it’s a pretty good debate as to whether Barkley or Ward would have been the better pick at the #4 pick had he made it there.

Still think Ward would be better, but giving Mayfield Barkley is something I wouldn’t just bat an eye at. That special.
 
I’m sorry but getting a playmaker that is THIS elite is worth it fully to me.

If you can address QB next season your offense now has been taken to the next level.

Anyways, I think it’s a pretty good debate as to whether Barkley or Ward would have been the better pick at the #4 pick had he made it there.

Still think Ward would be better, but giving Mayfield Barkley is something I wouldn’t just bat an eye at. That special.
Barkley was never the better choice. The shelve life of an NFL RB is too short to invest that kind of draft capital in. I was absolutely thrilled when I heard that NY had taken him. Meant we were never going to be at risk of drafting him. As it is, we ended up with the best offensive and best defensive players in this past draft, nothing to have to try to look towards second guessing. Time to just enjoy their progress week to week and look forward, not back.
 
Drafting Barkley only makes sense if you're not confident that you can get a franchise QB out of the draft and it's better to stink it up going into the next draft and then get your guy at that point. If that is your perspective it makes sense to simply go for the best player available, but you're making a huge gamble. I personally have a hard time justifying making that gamble when you consider how many QB's you had at the top of this years draft. Either way you are looking at, like CBBI noted, wasting at least 1 or 2 years of Barkleys rookie contract and with the shelf life you normally see from a position like RB that's a significant amount of time to simply write off.
 
Make no mistake...

The Giants didn't draft Barkley under the guise that they'd be horrible in 2018 and find Eli's replacement at the top of the 2019 draft.

They absolutely thought they'd be fighting for a playoff spot by surrounding Eli with better skill position guys and better offensive linemen.

God forbid they don't end up with a good rookie QB next year.
 
Make no mistake...

The Giants didn't draft Barkley under the guise that they'd be horrible in 2018 and find Eli's replacement at the top of the 2019 draft.

They absolutely thought they'd be fighting for a playoff spot by surrounding Eli with better skill position guys and better offensive linemen.

God forbid they don't end up with a good rookie QB next year.

In that case they're delusional.

I mean, they had the right idea when they benched Eli last year, but due to the public uproar they flinched and now their in a whole lot of hot water. They fired the people who identified the correct problem and now they're hobbled right out of the gate instead of having a smoother transition into a rebuild.

Regardless of how good their next QB draft gets they're looking at a rough couple of years. I guess there's free agency, but it doesn't seem like quality QB's are easy to come by that way, simply because of how valued the position is.
 
Make no mistake...

The Giants didn't draft Barkley under the guise that they'd be horrible in 2018 and find Eli's replacement at the top of the 2019 draft.

They absolutely thought they'd be fighting for a playoff spot by surrounding Eli with better skill position guys and better offensive linemen.

God forbid they don't end up with a good rookie QB next year.

They also thought they had something in Davis Webb. Ouch.
 
I literally had no idea that Brees was even close to breaking the record until he broke it. For that matter, I have no recollection of Manning breaking the record, and I couldn't tell you who had the record before Manning. Why is that?

I'll admit to being a casual NFL fan, but I'm a casual MLB fan, and I remember watching McGwire and Sosa going at it for the home run record. I remember Bonds breaking that, then the chase for Hank Aaron.

There's just something about football records that keeps them from being memorable or meaningful. Am I alone in this?
 
Goff is showing what happens when you get away from a terrible head coach. Hopefully Baker is blessed with the same.

Really need to surround our franchise QB with competence, or he could end up the next Andrew Luck. Ruined.
 
Goff is showing what happens when you get away from a terrible head coach. Hopefully Baker is blessed with the same.

Really need to surround our franchise QB with competence, or he could end up the next Andrew Luck. Ruined.

Or you can end up like Rodgers...wasting the prime of one of the best QBs ever by saddling him with an inept coach for a decade.
 
Jacksonville starting to look like a stinker. Just can only go so far with a Bortles at QB.

If that defense regresses, they're in trouble.
 
Jacksonville starting to look like a stinker. Just can only go so far with a Bortles at QB.

If that defense regresses, they're in trouble.
Honestly probably the worst thing that could’ve happened to that franchise was beating Pittspuke last year in the playoffs

Because then they felt they couldnt move on from Bortles

But they really need to move on from Bortles
 

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