#52 DeShone Kizer

[Lee]

This guy looked very good from what I saw. Good deep ball, some intermediate ropes, a nice back shoulder that was dropped. Showed some leg work as well. Great first game.

Are you talking about Kizer or the porn you watched last night?

 

[dark2332]

Combination of playing from behind, with a poor offensive line.

Additionally, it gives him that extra split second to get his eyes downfield.

For young QB's, it's a little tougher to get through your reads from a full drop.

Being in the gun allows him a little more room for error, if he is slightly late coming off his first read.

Not to mention, it fits in a little of what Hue likes to do with the zone-read from time to time. Kizer only kept it once to get a first down, but many of the hand-offs in the 4th came off of a zone-read shotgun formation, and were quite effective. As you said, the increased frequency probably had a lot to do with playing from behind.

However, Hue liked doing this with Dalton a little in his last year in Cincinnati. He would have a fun, fun time doing it with Kizer in Cleveland--he's actually a skilled runner.

 

[Randolphkeys]

However, Hue liked doing this with Dalton a little in his last year in Cincinnati. He would have a fun, fun time doing it with Kizer in Cleveland--he's actually a skilled runner.

The difference between what Kizer appeared to do and what many failed Browns QBs have done is that he ran selectively when the play was designed for him to run as a primary option. We had too many Colt, Seneca, and Manziel runs that were desperation after missing passing windows.

 

[Real Deal]

Grossi is a hack

 

[Lee]

Grossi is a hack

The lack of safety help is because they started blitzing him.

Both deep balls were against zereo safety help.

He isnt completely wrong here, Thats why me and Keys and some others are tempering our excitement a bit. But to be fair, to rush 6, and get hit .2 seconds after release and deliver a 35 yard strike in stride is more than just a good sign.

Nothing is going to tell us what we have in Kizer until we get several regular season starts. That said, the positives far out weigh the negatives yesterday for Kizer and its been way to long since we have been able to say that about a Browns Qb, preseason 3rd stringers or not.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Yep, Grossi is a hack and his stats on shotgun are still accurate. Hue is setting Kizer up to succeed and not throwing everything a QB has to do at him at once. As Lee points out, looking at what Kizer did well is important, but looking at the baby steps Hue rolled out for him doesn't make us haters or hacks... It's really a compliment to the coaches.

 

[Lee]

The lack of safety help is because they started blitzing him.

Both deep balls were against zereo safety help.

He isnt completely wrong here, Thats why me and Keys and some others are tempering our excitement a bit. But to be fair, to rush 6, and get hit .2 seconds after release and deliver a 35 yard strike in stride is more than just a good sign.

Nothing is going to tell us what we have in Kizer until we get several regular season starts. That said, the positives far out weigh the negatives yesterday for Kizer and its been way to long since we have been able to say that about a Browns Qb, preseason 3rd stringers or not.

@Randolphkeys

I just reread this, as a teacher you should not thank any post where the moron writing it cant even spell zero correctly.

Just saying, even if you agree with content, you cant accept such a poor example of our educational system.

 

[MD13]

The lack of safety help is because they started blitzing him.

Both deep balls were against zereo safety help.

He isnt completely wrong here, Thats why me and Keys and some others are tempering our excitement a bit. But to be fair, to rush 6, and get hit .2 seconds after release and deliver a 35 yard strike in stride is more than just a good sign.

Nothing is going to tell us what we have in Kizer until we get several regular season starts. That said, the positives far out weigh the negatives yesterday for Kizer and its been way to long since we have been able to say that about a Browns Qb, preseason 3rd stringers or not.

First deep ball was definitely not with zero safety help. Double move with a perfectly timed pump fake creates the down field opening. Really veteran move to create that opportunity.

View: https://twitter.com/NathanZegura/status/896022402836156423


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[Randolphkeys]

@Randolphkeys

I just reread this, as a teacher you should not thank any post where the moron writing it cant even spell zero correctly.

Just saying, even if you agree with content, you cant accept such a poor example of our educational system.

Arizona is ranked 49th in public school education funding, and it's clearly rubbing off on you, LOL!

 

[Lee]

First deep ball was definitely not with zero safety help. Double move with a perfectly timed pump fake creates the down field opening. Really veteran move to create that opportunity.

View: https://twitter.com/NathanZegura/status/896022402836156423


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correct, just saw that angle for first time.

First throw was against zone and horrible, and I mean horrible, safety play, lol.

But he got him on the pump fake, froze him for a second and the receiver blew past him.

 

[Surge]

First deep ball was definitely not with zero safety help. Double move with a perfectly timed pump fake creates the down field opening. Really veteran move to create that opportunity.

View: https://twitter.com/NathanZegura/status/896022402836156423


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Lol- Saints safeties both got toasted. Look at the bottom receiver turn the safety all the way around.

Would have been a touchdown no matter which receiver he threw to.

Good job receivers.

 

[Lee]

Arizona is ranked 49th in public school education funding, and it's clearly rubbing off on you, LOL!

I went to school in Ohio, and college at Purdue.

This has nothing to do with the barely functional idiots we are graduating here in Arizona.

 

[MD13]

correct, just saw that angle for first time.

First throw was against zone and horrible, and I mean horrible, safety play, lol.

But he got him on the pump fake, froze him for a second and the receiver blew past him.

Yeah, you can definitely argue that he burned horrible secondary play. You can also argue that he burned them behind bench WRs and behind a leaky offensive line that will probably never play a meaningful snap together as a unit, so it goes both ways. Regardless, really happy with the flashes we saw last night.

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[Randolphkeys]

I went to school in Ohio, and college at Purdue.

This has nothing to do with the barely functional idiots we are graduating here in Arizona.

If you live in Tokyo long enough, you pick up some Japanese. That's all I'm saying, partner. Now, back to overanalyzing a rookie QB in a predictably encouraging second half of a preseason game!

 

[SixPACK]

I went to school in Ohio, and college at Purdue.

This has nothing to do with the barely functional idiots we are graduating here in Arizona.

If you live in Tokyo long enough, you pick up some Japanese. That's all I'm saying, partner. Now, back to overanalyzing a rookie QB in a predictably encouraging second half of a preseason game!

Lee, you mean you went to THE best HS in Ohio. Go Falcons!