A Thread About Women

[Nathan S]

If I was high level male executive I would probably be a little weary to do it nowadays.

Really even if you're a regular dude at your job, but especially if you're in a position of power.

...but what's the alternative? Honest question. Would you just ask another random person to come sit quietly in your office and watch? That just seems so impractical.

 

[MediumBaller]

...but what's the alternative? Honest question. Would you just ask another random person to come sit quietly in your office and watch? That just seems so impractical.

Is it legal to put a camera in your office? If it is then that's a possibility. If it's not then I really don't know.

After work hours was more of what I was thinking about though. There's little good that can come from a guy meeting up alone with a female coworker outside of work especially if she's a subordinate.

 

[Nathan S]

Is it legal to put a camera in your office? If it is then that's a possibility. If it's not then I really don't know.

After work hours was more of what I was thinking about though. There's little good that can come from a guy meeting up alone with a female coworker outside of work especially if she's a subordinate.

Hmmm...I don't know if I want there to be permanent evidence of how much time I spend on RCF at work

Agreed on out of work stuff though; unless there's really mutual interest in a romantic relationship, planning off-site private meetings with a subordinate of the opposite gender sounds like a recipe for disaster.

 

[CleveRocks]

I met my wife at work.. in the 80's.. would never happen now.

And yes you have someone else in the room.

If it was a review or HR meeting, always had HR in the room. Sometimes had shift lead as well.. ALL training more than one person at a time.. All meetings minimum 3. One on one discussion, on the shop ffloor where people can see..

Also frequent training on workplace safety, including safe environment. Zero tolerance for sex talk our bawdy remarks. If you are managing or supervbisin g, tolerating any sexist orbawdy remark, establishes a workplace environment, tthat you can be held accountable for.

Back in the day, before I was married, I got a foot job under the table from a coworker.. she thought it was funny. Today you get fired for that shit..

 

[The Oi]

Wait what?

I’ve met alone with female coworkers many many times. No choice. Have not had problems with this.

Minor flirting with a couple, which is kinda inevitable, but I mean if you’re not gonna fuck them because you don’t want to get divorced I don’t see why you can’t have professional meetings with women.

Am I missing something here?

 

[Sebastian]

Wait what?

I’ve met alone with female coworkers many many times. No choice. Have not had problems with this.

Minor flirting with a couple, which is kinda inevitable, but I mean if you’re not gonna fuck them because you don’t want to get divorced I don’t see why you can’t have professional meetings with women.

Am I missing something here?

Yup.

You goin' to jail, son.

 

[David.]

Wait what?

I’ve met alone with female coworkers many many times. No choice. Have not had problems with this.

Minor flirting with a couple, which is kinda inevitable, but I mean if you’re not gonna fuck them because you don’t want to get divorced I don’t see why you can’t have professional meetings with women.

Am I missing something here?

everyone thinks youre gay/non threating so no one cares.

 

[The Oi]

everyone thinks youre gay/non threating so no one cares.

No shit. That explains why I’ve been able to convert on anal during so many of these meetings.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I met my wife at work.. in the 80's.. would never happen now.

And yes you have someone else in the room.

If it was a review or HR meeting, always had HR in the room. Sometimes had shift lead as well.. ALL training more than one person at a time.. All meetings minimum 3. One on one discussion, on the shop ffloor where people can see..

Also frequent training on workplace safety, including safe environment. Zero tolerance for sex talk our bawdy remarks. If you are managing or supervbisin g, tolerating any sexist orbawdy remark, establishes a workplace environment, tthat you can be held accountable for.

Back in the day, before I was married, I got a foot job under the table from a coworker.. she thought it was funny. Today you get fired for that shit..

For my reviews, there has never been anyone other than myself and my manager in the room. And that was regardless of whether the manager was male or female, as I've worked for both. I barely had any contact with HR at all after the hiring process at my old job. HR didn't even work in the same building as I did.

 

[The Oi]

Difference for me is probably that I haven’t worked in a traditional office setting in my entire career.

I went from being in an office that was ruled by a batshit crazy woman and a female boss that didn’t follow any HR standards to outside medical sales where there would be no way to have anyone other than one on one reviews and there were no offices to meet in... just Paneras with WIFI. And now I work from home, so I meet with nobody except for at conferences and their offices.

 

[CleveRocks]

For my reviews, there has never been anyone other than myself and my manager in the room. And that was regardless of whether the manager was male or female, as I've worked for both. I barely had any contact with HR at all after the hiring process at my old job. HR didn't even work in the same building as I did.

I am not saying there practices don't still exist. I know people who work at a local university who still have not updated how these things are done. However these practices are lawsuits waiting to happen. As public awareness shifts from the culture of quiet acceptance to a culture of public reproach, there will be more women willing to expose what they perceive as discriminatory actions or even cultures. As we have discussed at length, perception is reality. In your case, for reviews, it would be possible and a good idea to have HR on the Skype. But also you are in a public place so there is not a specific opportunity for the so called casting couch scenario..

There is, for the most part, a culture of men in the work place, more so in certain professions. There is also a cultural hypersexualization going on in our own society, right alongside the "movement" toward women's rights. These things are bound to collide.

I am very much against the objectification of women, AND of men. But there is a market dynamic linked to this, and so advertising entertainment feeds into this..

I am also of the opinion that getting our own culture to treat women fairly and equally, represents a huge cultural advantage for us. A lot of our enemies on the planet openly suppress women.. of course the middle East and much of africa is obvious, but some Asian cultures are male centric as well.the hard part is achieving equality without driving a wedge between genders. There are people and organizations that will want to set up an us and them dynamic for political gain..

 

[The Oi]

Shit...are you guys that are working in regular offices seriously having to avoid being in offices with women at the same time? And I’m 1099 so I haven’t been an employee and try to avoid being bothered with as much as possible.

I really haven’t been in a traditional office setting in 10 years so a lot probably has changed.

 

[DJTJ]

Shit...are you guys that are working in regular offices seriously having to avoid being in offices with women at the same time? And I’m 1099 so I haven’t been an employee and try to avoid being bothered with as much as possible.

I really haven’t been in a traditional office setting in 10 years so a lot probably has changed.

Not so much this, but I won't date anyone that I work with. Too risky if there's a bad break up.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Shit...are you guys that are working in regular offices seriously having to avoid being in offices with women at the same time? And I’m 1099 so I haven’t been an employee and try to avoid being bothered with as much as possible.

I really haven’t been in a traditional office setting in 10 years so a lot probably has changed.

Having worked in large corporations for most of my post-college life, being alone in an office with a woman has never been something that we were warned away from. It was never something that was even mentioned by HR. And, as I said earlier, essentially my only contact with HR was during the hiring process. After that, I occasionally saw HR people I knew at company events, but they were there to participate in them just as I was, not specifically as HR people.

 

[The Oi]

Having worked in large corporations for most of my post-college life, being alone in an office with a woman has never been something that we were warned away from. It was never something that was even mentioned by HR. And, as I said earlier, essentially my only contact with HR was during the hiring process. After that, I occasionally saw HR people I knew at company events, but they were there to participate in them just as I was, not specifically as HR people.

Yeah I mean...I'm reading this like some of these posters are Amish people or living in shiite communities or something.

Speaking of which...is there such a thing as an Amish dude with a reasonable haircut or a hot Amish chick? I feel like any time I see Amish people these two things are nonexistent.