Any Victor Oladipo new scenery targets out there?

[iWx]

 

[priceFTW]

Jabari Parker has a higher ceiling than Wiggins. With the current young team he could be the last puzzle for a homogeneous high talented team. İf there is a chance to get him, get him!

Jabari Parker isn’t a good player and he doesn’t have a high ceiling. We have enough data on him to know this. He wasn’t before his injuries (I know he was young) and he isn’t now after his injury.

—He cannot defend anyone let alone 1-4 which is ideal. His offense doesn’t make up for it.

—The Bucks have been better with Parker OFF the court EVERY season Parker has played.

In 336 minutes that Giannis and Jabari played together this season, the Bucks were outsourced by more than 8 points per 100 possessions, basically equivalent to a 20ish win piece of shit team. Kidd’s outdated defensive scheme (for those who don’t know about it, google Kidd’s defensive scheme thst makes ours look competent in comparison) didn’t help as Parker wasn’t suited for it, but I doubt he’s better in any schemes.

In all the other 2000+ minutes Giannis played without Parker, the Bucks were a solid +4.5 per 100 possessions, a 53-55 win type team.


THIS WAS BEFORE HIS INJURIES (posted this in 2015 Cavaliers Offseason Thread:

Players Parker guarded were shooting 51.6% against him compared to 44.6% against everyone else. From less than 10 feet, players he guarded were shooting 68.2%!! and 53.9% against everyone else. Parker's RPM was -2.70, 436th out of 474 players. His defensive RPM was -2.64, 440th out of 474 players.

Bucks ORtg with Jabari on court: 101.2
Bucks ORtg with Jabari off court: 103.3 (Bucks 2.1 points per 100 possessions better with Jabari off court)

Bucks DRtg with Jabari on court: 107.8
Bucks DRtg with Jabari off court: 100.9 (Bucks 6.9 points per 100 possessions better with Jabari of court)

In total, the Bucks are 9 points per 100 possessions BETTER with Jabari off court.

 

[avs2000]

Jabari Parker isn’t a good player and he doesn’t have a high ceiling. We have enough data on him to know this. He wasn’t before his injuries (I know he was young) and he isn’t now after his injury.

—He cannot defend anyone let alone 1-4 which is ideal. His offense doesn’t make up for it.

—The Bucks have been better with Parker OFF the court EVERY season Parker has played.

In 336 minutes that Giannis and Jabari played together this season, the Bucks were outsourced by more than 8 points per 100 possessions, basically equivalent to a 20ish win piece of shit team. Kidd’s outdated defensive scheme (for those who don’t know about it, google Kidd’s defensive scheme thst makes ours look competent in comparison) didn’t help as Parker wasn’t suited for it, but I doubt he’s better in any schemes.

In all the other 2000+ minutes Giannis played without Parker, the Bucks were a solid +4.5 per 100 possessions, a 53-55 win type team.


THIS WAS BEFORE HIS INJURIES (posted this in 2015 Cavaliers Offseason Thread:

Players Parker guarded were shooting 51.6% against him compared to 44.6% against everyone else. From less than 10 feet, players he guarded were shooting 68.2%!! and 53.9% against everyone else. Parker's RPM was -2.70, 436th out of 474 players. His defensive RPM was -2.64, 440th out of 474 players.

Bucks ORtg with Jabari on court: 101.2
Bucks ORtg with Jabari off court: 103.3 (Bucks 2.1 points per 100 possessions better with Jabari off court)

Bucks DRtg with Jabari on court: 107.8
Bucks DRtg with Jabari off court: 100.9 (Bucks 6.9 points per 100 possessions better with Jabari of court)

In total, the Bucks are 9 points per 100 possessions BETTER with Jabari off court.

That is just your opinion. Lol
Hard to argue with that. No Parker

 

[Randolphkeys]

Jabari Parker, meet Antawn Jamison. This is your future.

 

[inliner311]

Apparently the heat are trying to trade him. I always liked Dion but would be worried about him fight over the ball with Sexton. I'd take him over Clarkson if they were on the same contract but that addition year that Dion has hurts out flexibility. I would want him in the same role as Clarkson though as the lead guy for the second unit, at least I've seen Dion pass the ball more than a handful of times.

 

[dark2332]

Jabari Parker, meet Antawn Jamison. This is your future.

I’d say 16 years in the league and a two-time All-Star would be a success story given his knee injuries.

 

[Nathan S]

What backcourt duo would be most dysfunctional?

A. Clarkson-Waiters
B. Clarkson-JR
C. Clarkson-Hood
D. Waiters-JR
E. Waiters-Hood
F. JR-Hood

 

[ice cream man]

I wonder if Aaron Gordon will be available. Magic will have a crap record again but if their other young guys are looking good I'd think they'd hold onto him.

 

[avs2000]

Apparently the heat are trying to trade him. I always liked Dion but would be worried about him fight over the ball with Sexton. I'd take him over Clarkson if they were on the same contract but that addition year that Dion has hurts out flexibility. I would want him in the same role as Clarkson though as the lead guy for the second unit, at least I've seen Dion pass the ball more than a handful of times.

You want Dion waiters back ?

 

[TitleTown]

You want Dion waiters back ?

Fuck no. It's the same reason I want Hood gone.

I want players with (a) upside potential, (b) good attitudes, and/or (c) the ability to mentor and help other players on the team.

Dion fits none of those categories.

 

[inliner311]

You want Dion waiters back ?

Not really. If it was a straight Clarkson for Waiters, I'd think about it. The extra year on Dion's contract probably would sway me against doing it.

I think Dion is a better player than Clarkson and I wouldn't mind Dion running our second unit as much as Clarkson. Dion showed that he could actually play like a PG and set guys up when he was asked to do so.

 

[NMCav]

What backcourt duo would be most dysfunctional?

A. Clarkson-Waiters
B. Clarkson-JR
C. Clarkson-Hood
D. Waiters-JR
E. Waiters-Hood
F. JR-Hood

Clarkson - JR. Not really a debate. Unless the goal was to have a chucker competition. The real question is how many times is Ty Lue gonna run a Clarkson - JR - Hood lineup.

 

[OptimusPrime]

What backcourt duo would be most dysfunctional?

A. Clarkson-Waiters
B. Clarkson-JR
C. Clarkson-Hood
D. Waiters-JR
E. Waiters-Hood
F. JR-Hood

Depends on what you mean by dysfunctional I guess. I have no doubt there would be fisticuffs between Dion and J.R. Smith, likely during the game, on the court.

I'll miss Dion and his volatility during this rebuild. It's too bad he never got his head on right. He has the physical tools to be a very good player. He has point guard vision, strength to guard bigger players and an absolutely elite first step off the dribble. Not to mention he has the clutch gene. He just takes too many dumb shots and never fixed that or apparently even saw a problem with it. Oh well.

 

[TitleTown]

Not to mention he has the clutch gene.

We may have different definitions of "clutch." Dion has never gone far enough or ever been in a winning situation to be a "clutch" player.

He definitely has the ego of a "clutch" player, but he's never actually been in a scenario to prove it. Nor will he ever. Because he's just not that good.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I don't think it's likely that Porter will take the leap Oladipo did. But playing next to Wall (and Beal), I think he's trapped in a 3&D role the same way Oladipo was in OKC. He has some solid ballhandling/creating skills, but rarely gets to put them to use. I'm not generally in favor of reloading and trying to make the playoffs this year, but if we go that route, trading Love and Korver for Porter, filler, and a future first would be an interesting option. Just my 2 cents.

Always liked Porter. I know that the Paul Pierce comparisons are a running joke here, but he's one of the few guys where it made a lot of sense.

Seems like he'd be a good locker room guy too, which is what we need more of.