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Anyone else play JRPGs?

Discussion in 'Games & Gadgets' started by sportscoach, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. NFiYX

    NFiYX Rookie

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    Yeah, man...it looks so good, too... I just bought Kingdom Hearts - Remix on PS4 (Pro) and when I'm finished with it I plan on getting Persona 5.
     
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  2. ACisKING

    ACisKING Gold Star Member

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    It's interesting that you brought up Final Fantasy 7 and 10, which happen to be two of my favorite games ever. I'm confident that if you liked those games, you will love Persona 5. I don't know if it's the best RPG ever relative to its time, and maybe its recency bias, but I struggle to think of a better RPG I've played. It's not perfect ,but it does so many things well.

    Let's start with art style. It looks like an anime that is brought to life. The cutscenes are anime clips and the in game graphics could be described as extremely stylized cell shading. But the art style also permeates every menu screen, the combat menus, and even the world itself. Then there is the story. It's essentially an inception-style plotline with a dose of Deathnote. It deals with extremely serious issues like sexual abuse, exploitation, suicide, etc. that I personally have never seen addressed in a video game. And then there are the characters - while the protagonist is essentially silent, the people around him are engaging and compelling. On the one hand, these characters fill in the basic tropes you would expect from any anime, but they have interesting stories and the more time you spend with them the more you will get to like them. For a JRPG, the localization into English is surprisingly well done, albeit with small hiccups here and there. It also isn't afraid to be totally whacky and out there (it literally has a main character that I'd best describe as a talking cat that doesn't know its gender and believes it is a human), which separates it from some of the western games that take themselves too seriously. It has that charm unique to the best JRPGs like Chrono Trigger and the FF series. The soundtrack is amazing too; it's almost like a jazz version of a classic FF soundtrack.

    The best way to describe the gameplay is that it is essentially all about time management and deciding what you want to do. Your character is a student who has to balance all the normal parts of life (tests, friends, jobs, baseball, etc) with accomplishing certain missions which involve you and your crew breaking into someone's mind/heart and stealing something to change them. With certain exceptions, you can spend your time however you like as long as you complete certain required missions complete by a given deadline. The brilliance of this is that everything you choose to do you do helps you in some way on those missions. Want to watch a movie with character X? That's totally fine...and you get character dialogue plus various benefits for doing this depending on the movie you watch. So instead of the endless grinding of a FF game, you can just spend more time with the characters you are interested in. However, since the entire game lasts a set amount of time in terms of days in the game, you have to just be smart about how to use best use your time.

    The combat itself is turn-based, but still feels fast and different from FF games. The combat is essentially built around chaining actions together to get enemies in a situation where you can bribe them, finish them off, or get them to join you. They also have these things called personas (some weird mix of aeons/GF's/etc from FF and pokemon) that you can collect, combine, and give abilities to. It's impossible to explain here but the game makes use of many interlocking systems (in fact the first twelve or so hours of the game is basically just a giant tutorial) that synergize beautifully together. If you are the type that enjoys grinding there is a way to constantly train as well, but it isn't necessary, at least where I am in the game. I'm someone that no longer enjoys turn based combat in games, but it's actually not bad here at all.

    tl;dr - If you like JRPGs, you will like Persona 5.
     
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  3. gourimoko

    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

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    Downloading Persona 5 as we speak... PS3 version..
     
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  4. SuperSurge

    SuperSurge Slice & Dice Staff Member Moderator

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    Lol i am racing Chocobos right now in FF7 on steam.

    Persona 5 is next I guess.
     
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    ACisKING Gold Star Member

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    Is the ps3 version different from the ps4 version in any way? I hope you arent missing out on anything
     
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    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

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    Checked into it..

    So, the only actual difference is that the PS3 version is 720p @ 30fps, the PS4 version is 1080p @ 60fps. The game was originally designed on the PS3 and was then ported to the PS4 with higher rendering target and double the framerate.

    Was playing the game last night (very interesting beginning to this game btw), but in RPCS3 (the emulator), I've forced a resolution of 1920x1080, so I'm getting 1080p. As of right now, I'm still only getting 30 FPS rather than 60 FPS and there is definitely stuttering when reaching parts of the game you haven't already (shader caching).. Unlike BotW/cemu, it doesn't appear as though folk share their PS3 pre-cached shaders for RPCS3.. so this seems unavoidable.

    All in all though, I may just ultimately buy the game, but I would prefer to play it at my desk rather than in the living room on my console ... I had hoped there was a Steam version, but there isn't it's only for PS3/PS4, so, as of right now, this does seem like a great alternative.
     
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  7. NMCav

    NMCav Situational Stopper

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    Persona 5 was awesome took me 80 hours to beat it. I want to play a 2nd time through when I get a chance because you miss some opportunities first time around cause you have to build up your social stats but it's a great game imho. I have been looking for another JRPG though so if anyone has any suggestions let me know.
     
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    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

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    FWIW, I've applied a patch to the game that allows for 60 FPS; so now I'm at 1080p@60FPS just like the PS4.. There's still lots of issues playing it this way with respect to dropped frame rates in certain areas, but, anyone who's comfortable with using an emulator should be fine...
     
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  9. sportscoach

    sportscoach Snarly's Gaming Rival!!

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    What systems do you have? If you want to get into JRPGs then get a backwards compatible PS3 since majority of them are for ps1 and ps2 at the end of the day (At least a lot of the good ones are). Also what is your budget for buying new games? JRPGs actually have a tendency to go up in price as they age rather than go down in price. Though steam actually has a large selection and its easy to get roms as long as you have a good computer and graphics to play them. Handheld systems also have a ton as well but are slowly being phased out (at least the traditional style of the games are)

    I took advantage of the retro gaming sale online for gamestop so I just bought a whole bunch of classic ps1 JRPGs to enhance my collection! :)
     
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  10. Snarly

    Snarly Count Duckula.

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    I actually am playing new and old. P5, Finishing up FF15 but Suikoden 5 right has me by the balls. So that said legit way to play retro JRPGs are the way to go. You might get frustrated but go for it the old and the new and mix them up. Really my favorite game of all time is a JRPG.
     
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  11. sportscoach

    sportscoach Snarly's Gaming Rival!!

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    I purposely got myself a gaming laptop so I can play a whole bunch of retro games on it! So I have like the Suikodens and some others on it! Vita is also pretty good system since you can get retro RPGs on it from digital download. Not the same as actually owning the copies but heck it's way cheaper lol
     

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