Rodney Hood: Won't be missed

[cavsfever]

Well, I figure it will take something more than 1) putting together a team that should have taken Game 1 from the greatest team in history if it wasn't robbed, while simultaneously 2) leaving us in a much better rebuilding posture than we were the last time LeBron ditched us.

I personally think he's done a better job than anyone else we've had during the LeBron era.

Altman has been a disaster so far, not sure if it was him or Gilbert but the repeated personnel fuckups last year surely made a big contribution to losing Lebron. Which despite the fact that people are kind of OK with it was a huge blow to the Cavs future chances of winning at the highest level. And the reason we would have taken Game 1 last year had ZERO to do with Altman -- it was all Lebron, who put up 51/8/8 on 60/40/90 shooting and played 48 minutes. If *any* of the players Altman acquired last year had showed up we would have won going away.

As for our rebuilding posture, let's wait and see. K-Love's re-signing is a big deal if we're not going to tank, but Love was not an Altman acquisition originally.

 

[avs2000]

Altman has been a disaster so far, not sure if it was him or Gilbert but the repeated personnel fuckups last year surely made a big contribution to losing Lebron. Which despite the fact that people are kind of OK with it was a huge blow to the Cavs future chances of winning at the highest level. And the reason we would have taken Game 1 last year had ZERO to do with Altman -- it was all Lebron, who put up 51/8/8 on 60/40/90 shooting and played 48 minutes. If *any* of the players Altman acquired last year had showed up we would have won going away.

As for our rebuilding posture, let's wait and see. K-Love's re-signing is a big deal if we're not going to tank, but Love was not an Altman acquisition originally.

Got to disagree. Altman has done a very job. Was in a bad situation with kyrie and the more time goes on the better the trade looks. Zizic Sexton nance (when IT) was moved. We will say Clarkson came from our # 1. Irving will always be hurt
Altman was the one who wanted Osman

Altman looks like he a good job with the pick in Sexton
Altman might have found a steal in Preston
Nawab is a good signing.
So far I am happy.

 

[dark2332]

Got to disagree. Altman has done a very job. Was in a bad situation with kyrie and the more time goes on the better the trade looks. Zizic Sexton nance (when IT) was moved. We will say Clarkson came from our # 1. Irving will always be hurt
Altman was the one who wanted Osman

Altman looks like he a good job with the pick in Sexton
Altman might have found a steal in Preston
Nawab is a good signing.
So far I am happy.

Nope, it was the opposite.

 

[avs2000]

Nope, it was the opposite.

What was ?

 

[inliner311]

Altman has been a disaster so far, not sure if it was him or Gilbert but the repeated personnel fuckups last year surely made a big contribution to losing Lebron. Which despite the fact that people are kind of OK with it was a huge blow to the Cavs future chances of winning at the highest level. And the reason we would have taken Game 1 last year had ZERO to do with Altman -- it was all Lebron, who put up 51/8/8 on 60/40/90 shooting and played 48 minutes. If *any* of the players Altman acquired last year had showed up we would have won going away.

As for our rebuilding posture, let's wait and see. K-Love's re-signing is a big deal if we're not going to tank, but Love was not an Altman acquisition originally.

I've come to the conclusion that unless Koby found 2 more all stars last season that we had no chance at keeping LeBron. When in LeBron's career has basically every player brought in not worked out. In the past we saw LeBron make a big effort to alter the offense to get guys comfortable. Korver was prime example of this. He even tried to get Dunleavy to fit in despite Dunleavy clearly not being healthy when he was with us.

If you think about previous season, LeBron would try to incorporate players and everyone had staple plays they ran. I truely can't think of a go to play that LeBron and any of the new players from the 2017-2018 ran. I just don't think LeBron wanted the new guys to work out. He was set on going to the Lakers, just look at their roster right now. It was planned for at least a year and he wasn't changing his mind.

Let's just move on now and let's see what Koby can do going forward. Koby seem to sell Love on playing for the Cavs long term. I'm interested to see his vision for the team going forward.

 

[inliner311]

My problem is twofold:

First, I disagree on Hood proving to have been an average defender. He was good when playing with Hayward, Favors, and Gobert in the lineup, but that is about it. Otherwise, he has been a negative defender every year. The short arms do not help the piss-poor effort.

Second, in regards to offense, I do think Hood could eventually learn to excel in a bench spark-plug role. This is what teams need to be hoping for if they sign him. But from everything we have heard, it sounds like that role is going to Clarkson, and Hood will be just another guy in our offense. My guess is you see similar problems as last year.

As I have said a few times, I am fine with signing Hood, as long as the contract is team friendly and very tradeable, or provides no guaranteed money for next year. I doubt Cleveland is the place where he proves himself, but I hope I am wrong.

I think we have no choice but to use Clarkson as a 6th man. He has too much left on his contract to give up on him and I just don't see another role that he suited for. He isn't starting material.

As for Hood, we have alot of touches to divvy up from the hole left from LeBron and we will have more to add to the pot by the trade deadline. Sexton and Cedi will naturally grab some of them as time goes on. I think Hood has the tools and untapped potential to warrant getting 12-14 shots per game like he did in Utah. We just don't have the player on the roster to compete with him for those touches yet. That's the reason why I think we should resign him for 2 year+a team option 3rd year or a 3 year deal. Even if we draft someone next year to take his role, I doubt that player will be ready to step in right away. By time we have a real replacement for Hood he will be an expiring or off his contract.

 

[ShawnKempIsMyDad]

In the past he’s made it clear that he doesn’t really want to be here. Has his view changed? Has he signed yet?

 

[CSF]

Koby is a very bad GM

 

[Cavatt]

I've come to the conclusion that unless Koby found 2 more all stars last season that we had no chance at keeping LeBron. When in LeBron's career has basically every player brought in not worked out. In the past we saw LeBron make a big effort to alter the offense to get guys comfortable. Korver was prime example of this. He even tried to get Dunleavy to fit in despite Dunleavy clearly not being healthy when he was with us.

If you think about previous season, LeBron would try to incorporate players and everyone had staple plays they ran. I truely can't think of a go to play that LeBron and any of the new players from the 2017-2018 ran. I just don't think LeBron wanted the new guys to work out. He was set on going to the Lakers, just look at their roster right now. It was planned for at least a year and he wasn't changing his mind.

Let's just move on now and let's see what Koby can do going forward. Koby seem to sell Love on playing for the Cavs long term. I'm interested to see his vision for the team going forward.

I tend to believe this, but haven't said much about it. They had some cool sets and ways these guys were effective and LeBron totally went away from it. What happened with pick and roll with Nance? Clarkson on the wing for the 3 or penetration from the baseline?

It was in Lebrons best interest to look like he had no help

 

[daytripper]

Koby is a very bad GM

Altman has done ok this offseason considering everything. He gets an A in my book for not offering Fraudney a big contract. Hood is one of the softest players in the league IMO and I don't see much upside at his age either.

 

[NobodyImportant]

I don't understand how anyone can say Sexton is a good pick when he hasn't played a game yet. The rest of Altmans moves have ranged from bleh to meh. The Kyrie trade was a disaster and Koby basically admitted that when he shipped out basically the entire haul for others midseason. Can't give him too much credit for not resigning Hood when he traded for him in the first place. Hood, Hill and Clarkson were all busts.

They got two decent bigs out of it that don't exactly fit into today's game but at least have potential. I just don't understand how Koby is getting the benefit of the doubt here. Signing or trading for replacement level guys like Nwaba and Dekkar? Meh. If zizic or sexton don't turn into all stars, that trade was an unmitigated disaster

 

[ice cream man]

Koby is a very bad GM

From a distance, it may look like this. But all of the disorganization stems from Gilbert, who should have held onto David Griffin. Now whoever made the decision (I’m assuming was a trade made of course by Altman, but one that Gilbert was in favor of) to trade Kyrie for IT/Zizic/pick is a terrible decision maker. If you want to trade Kyrie for future assets post-LeBron era that’s one thing, but to actually think IT was going to be anything but a liability is idiotic. And they didn’t have to rush that much to trade Kyrie in my opinion.

With what we had at the time, I was happy with the deals we made at the deadline. Those deals were Altman, not Gilbert. I don’t think we should have had to give up a pick to LA for taking on Clarkson. Nance isn’t THAT valuable. Now we are stuck with Clarkson, and since everybody hates Hood (doesn’t appear to be a part of the team’s future either), the only long term valuable piece left is Nance.

So we traded the most talented point guard of all time, in my opionion, for Nance, Zizic, a 1st round pick, and a bad contract (Clarkson).

So you gotta put it on Gilbert, for trading for an injured 5’9” guy, and for not keeping Griffin. If he held onto David Griffin things would look totally different. Maybe Paul George, maybe not, but we’d be way better off.

Altman, Gilbert, and Lue all have A LOT to prove over the next couple years.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Koby is a very bad GM

It's so fun to have you back!!!!

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

From a distance, it may look like this. But all of the disorganization stems from Gilbert, who should have held onto David Griffin.

No, he shouldn't have. Griffin's record is one of spending first round draft picks like he had an infinite supply of them, overpaying role players, and talking to other teams about what a dick his boss was, while still employed.

Good riddance.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

No, he shouldn't have. Gilbert's record is one of spending first round draft picks like he had an infinite supply of them, overpaying role players, and talking to over teams about what a dick his boss was, while still employed.

Good riddance.

Griffin*?