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Black Lives Matter, and racial tensions in America...

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by IWantAKouki, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. Nathan S

    Nathan S Leaping strong buildings!

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    Eh, but was the far left, e.g. Antifa, rabidly pro-Bernie the same way the alt-right was rabidly pro-Trump? I think Trump's candidacy was pretty unique in how much it appealed to the most extreme members of his party, relative to all serious candidates in both parties in recent years.
     
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    AZ_ Hall-of-Famer

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    Moreover, the left isn't pushing policies in line with the dreams and aspirations of Antifa.
     
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  3. The Human Q-Tip

    The Human Q-Tip War is Hell

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    But it wasn't just Antifa. They actively courted/supported BLM, right? Did you see disavowal of things like "Pigs in a blanket/fry 'em like bacon", which was in an avowedly BLM rally? Or demands by the media that the Democrat candidate do so?

    There were plenty of other offensive signs, etc, at BLM rallies, some feminist rallies, the usual support from shady people like Al Sharon, and Democrats weren't asked to disavow that. No matter what some BLM marchers said or did, the Democrats were terrified of criticizing them even slightly. People rushed a stage and took microphones by force, prevented speakers from speaking, and they said nothing. Even though those actions were committed in the name of a group those politicians actively courted and supported by name.

    Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anyone of that double standard. Just trying to raise the issue for people to think about and judge on their own, and perhaps increase awareness when it happens in the future.
     
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    I don't think this would have happened if Jeb Bush was elected either, although people would have been hating on the Bushes more than ever. So there is an element of Trump emboldening that fringe racist element.
     
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    this is not an argument.

    It's a report of a poll done by uc Berkey without absolutely any editorialism whatsoever.

    Attack the argument, which is sound, not the source.
     
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    Good thing he wasn't a member of La Raza
     
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    Yeah, I read it. The logic to arrive at the conclusion presented in the article is a huge leap, and it's a poll of many different types of people, slightly more than a majority even identifying as "liberal".

    Unsurprising given the source, which should just not be presented in a legitimate discussion in the first place.
     
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    Yea that's called ad homimem and poisoning the well and it has nothing to do with the actual content. It shouldn't make its way into any legitimate discussion.

    You still haven't explained exactly why you have a problem with this. More people are liberal in America. Why shouldn't those polled be slightly more liberal? What issue do you specifically have with this other than the source?
     
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    You're attacking the source, not the argument. The article is reporting the findings of a study. It isn't an opinion piece.
     
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    Attacking the source! Attacking the source!

    Credibility be damned.

    Said while supporting a man whose main platform is attacking the sources.
     
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    I give you a week here :chuckle:

    Literally just got banned and are told daily how insufferable you are. Not even going to bother with the holes in the logic you just posted

    You should listen to how people respond to you. it's a clue that you're doing shit wrong
     
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    Dude. They're reporting the findings of a survey. Why is Breitbart's "credibility" even remotely relevant? Breitbart isn't the source of this information. They're reporting information from another source. Like, if you want to say it isn't a credible source then find the actual source of the information.

    If breitbart posts a story about there being a hurricane in Florida this past weekend are you going to be all "nope! Didn't happen!"?
     
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