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Breaking: Joe Paterno is still dead

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I'll never excuse what happened, let's get through that first. It's probably the worst sports-related story I've ever heard, and one of the most disturbing stories on any general topic I've ever heard.

That said, I find it interesting that a website that was able to deduce the politics surrounding the OSU scandal cannot see some similarities in this one. Some lower coaches were making some mistakes, the University itself was reaping in money hand over fist due to it's gridiron success, nobody wanted the word of the bad press to get around... we have heard this story before, albeit on a much lower scale.

So Tressel has some knowledge he doesn't want to have, and he goes to the school's administration with it. He is blamed in the media while the assistant coaches get off scott-free and no administrator loses his job.

Sandusky is, rightfully, going to go through the gambit in the legal process. Joe Paterno is the focus of media scrutiny until he dies, but the administrators he reported it to are still employed, and the building that people were raising funds for in the past ten years is still standing.

Tressel could have done more. Paterno could have done more... but the people who were informed by these coaches sure as HELL could have done more.

I don't buy into scapegoats as easily as the media wants me to. There are a lot of unclean hands, and it's a shame when the head coach gets the brunt of it just because his name is the most recognizable.
 
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I dont see any of the people condemning Paterno. going out writing letters to the congressmen. calling for investigations of the former attorney generals. the campus police detectives who did the original investigation. The Trustees of the University or calling for mcleary to be fired. I don't see you writing letters to the garbage men who also witnessed such events campaigning for them to get fired.

Quite frankly if its about letting child get raped and not doing enough to stop it or making a lesson so it doesn't happen again.. none of you are doing enough

You guys have the facts. you see what happened and who was involved but you allow the organization 2nd mile to stay in business. the ag who decided not to prosecute in 99 off the hook and the only one you hold accountable was the guy not in a position of power to do anything nor witness anything.

some of you havent even bothered to research the matter enough to have the facts straight and creating scenarios that did not occur.

John Shurma one of the trustees that voted out Paterno even said he did not know what Joe Paterno did or didnt do. John knew and did the same thing paterno did when he learned of the Mcearly statement ten years ago. Where is the vilification for the Board of trustees and dont forget these are alleged statements froma guy who was so concerned about his observations he never bothered to make a police report.

This isnt a new case. it didnt come out of nowhere. this situation with sandusky was a matter of public record for years before the indictments were actually handed down. the majority of Joe paternos testimony occured over 4 years ago.

despite this Sandusky was allowed on campus at penn state, robert morris and other colleges for years after these allegations were made. Second mile took no action against sandusky and his field trips were paid by his return and he still continue d to schmooze with state big shots and politicians year after year of this very public investigation.

dont be a pawn of Espn . look at the facts. dont judge a guy without looking at the big picture.

and if you dont think Tom bradley knew anything about this.. hahaha
 
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Being on the wrong end of this, I still don't completely blame JoePa. But there seems to be no doubt that he could have (AND SHOULD HAVE) done more. I'm sure there are others involved and they should be held accountable to some extent too, but the very top officials (which I would think includes Joe) should be most accountable. Joe has/had it bad becuase he is/was the "definition" of Penn State. I honestly think it was the guilt that killed him as much as the cancer...
 
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yes cause cancer only kills guilt ridden people.
 
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yes cause cancer only kills guilt ridden people.

That was more a comment to the people that think he went because he lost his coaching job. I know the cancer is what killed him...
 
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That was more a comment to the people that think he went because he lost his coaching job. I know the cancer is what killed him...

The broken pelvis didn't help, either. I see it all the time in the nursing home, a semi frail senior breaks a hip or other major bone and never recovers. That's why seniors are so terrified of falling, a great majority don't recover.

Paterno was obviously in frail health for awhile. The chemo, Cancer and fracture were too much for him to handle. Not many 85 year olds could survive that. Though I don't doubt that he probably also just gave up on life.
 
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The broken pelvis didn't help, either. I see it all the time in the nursing home, a semi frail senior breaks a hip or other major bone and never recovers. That's why seniors are so terrified of falling, a great majority don't recover.

Paterno was obviously in frail health for awhile. The chemo, Cancer and fracture were too much for him to handle. Not many 85 year olds could survive that. Though I don't doubt that he probably also just gave up on life.

The "giving up on life" part is the part I'm reffering to...
 
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The "giving up on life" part is the part I'm reffering to...

I get it, but I see it in a different way, not because of the scandal stuff but because he was old.

People that age are tired. They don't want to go through pain anymore, they lived a long life and are just ready to be at peace. Our bodies weren't made to live to be 80 or 90 years old, it's only really in the last generation that so many people started living to such an old age because of all the medical technology.
 
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I get it, but I see it in a different way, not because of the scandal stuff but because he was old.

People that age are tired. They don't want to go through pain anymore, they lived a long life and are just ready to be at peace. Our bodies weren't made to live to be 80 or 90 years old, it's only really in the last generation that so many people started living to such an old age because of all the medical technology.

And I 100% accept he died of cancer and old age, but the person's mental attitude usually effects thier physical well being. So, what mental thing effected his demise most? Losing his coaching job, or feeling guilty about why he lost it?
 
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And I 100% accept he died of cancer and old age, but the person's mental attitude usually effects thier physical well being. So, what mental thing effected his demise most? Losing his coaching job, or feeling guilty about why he lost it?


If I had to I would say a combination of the guilt plus the humiliation. He was pretty much untouchable for decades. I think that the very public humiliation of being fired plus his morals being questioned played a part.
 
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maybe no mental thing effected his demise. he had cancer and a broken hip. its winter. He could of fought hard all the way through. you dont know
 
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maybe no mental thing effected his demise. he had cancer and a broken hip. its winter. He could of fought hard all the way through. you dont know

I understand that too, I guess I just hate that many people are blaming his firing...
 
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The man cowered in the face of evil.

With that said, RIP Joe Paterno. The pride he instilled in Penn State students and alums is an intangible legacy that will live on for a long time. I do not attribute his morally wrong decision as a tarp that masks the good he has done for many folks.

Wishing death upon someone is a putrid act and in it puts you in the company of the people whom you make the wish against.
 
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