Leadership Specialist Tyrod Taylor

[The Wizard of Moz]

Suppose the Browns go 10-6, and make the playoffs. Do you then ditch the guy that took you there, and replace him with a rookie?

I wouldn't be so sure.

It’s pretty much what Kansas City just did.

And funny enough, it’s what buffalo is ABOUT to do. Tyrod just took them to the playoffs and they ditched him for what will almost assuredly be a new rookie

You have to look at where each QBs ceiling is. Is an Andy Dalton who can get you to the playoffs and never win a game worth passing on a QB if, hypothetically, Cincy ever got the #1 pick (let’s say from another team via a trade the prior year that ends up being 1 to avoid the retort of “well if they’re picking #1 then Dalton shit the bed”)?

I would say no. If I was Cincy and had the first overall this year I’m taking a QB.

Now if Taylor defies literally all odds and let’s say he takes us to the AFCG? Then yeah, you roll with him (still wouldn’t trade the rookie) for longer. But the chance of that is so low it’s indistinguishable from 0

 

[AZ_]

Suppose the Browns go 10-6, and make the playoffs. Do you then ditch the guy that took you there, and replace him with a rookie?

I wouldn't be so sure.

Simply going 10-6 isn't on the QB, but expecting Tyrod Taylor to become something totally different than what he's been his entire career would be something of a longshot.

If he's going to totally transform himself, then yeah maybe that becomes an option.

But, people don't generally change like that. They need him to manage the game and not make mistakes, they need Rosen (or Darnold) to develop into a game-changer.

 

[Ohio]

Suppose the Browns go 10-6, and make the playoffs. Do you then ditch the guy that took you there, and replace him with a rookie?

I wouldn't be so sure.

Not necessarily. But you don't trade away the rookie.

I mean, Aaron Rodgers sat how many years?

 

[thestatman]

Not OK with Jackson etching in stone that Tyrod will be the starting quarterback next season. Your GM is tasked with drafting a franchise quarterback with the number 1 overall pick. It he were to say that Tyrod will open camp as the number 1 qb. I'm OK with that. But open competition for the spot should be the approach taken. Just because Kizer was so God awful, doesn't mean the new quarterback won't be a lot better than Tyrod. If Mayfield plays like Wentz did. or Watson did in camp, the quarterback needs to be Mayfield, not Taylor.

If Hugh's record is anything ess than 4-4 at the midway point next year, he needs to be shitcanned at that point. And I think Dorsey will do just that.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Not OK with Jackson etching in stone that Tyrod will be the starting quarterback next season. Your GM is tasked with drafting a franchise quarterback with the number 1 overall pick. It he were to say that Tyrod will open camp as the number 1 qb. I'm OK with that. But open competition for the spot should be the approach taken. Just because Kizer was so God awful, doesn't mean the new quarterback won't be a lot better than Tyrod. If Mayfield plays like Wentz did. or Watson did in camp, the quarterback needs to be Mayfield, not Taylor.

Last July, I put a lot of posts into explaining why Kizer starting the year as the #1 quarterback would be a bad choice in the long run. My stance was not popular because everyone knew Osweiler sucked. I saw a lot of told you so posts after Kizer won the job and Osweiler was cut however I remained firm that Kizer starting from week one was a costly move.

As Kizer got worse from quarter to quarter, facing defenses that weren't running basic vanilla preseason schemes, the gap between "play the most talented QB" and "play the most prepared QB" became more and more clear. It takes a special rookie to jump from the college game into the pro game. Kizer wasn't one of those special types.

Start Tyrod. That's why he's on the roster and that's why he cost the #65 pick in a deep draft.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Not necessarily. But you don't trade away the rookie.

I mean, Aaron Rodgers sat how many years?

That was because they kept expecting Favre to retire, and he kept yanking their chain at the last minute.

Taylor isn't old -- there's even a good argument he may just be entering his prime. And I'm not saying I expect him to blow everyone's doors off. I'm just saying that if he performs really well and we have success, it would take balls to ditch the first QB to take us to the playoffs in 11 years, and go with a second year player who's only got 1-2, or maybe even zero starts to his name.

 

[FrontPageNews]

Suppose the Browns go 10-6, and make the playoffs. Do you then ditch the guy that took you there, and replace him with a rookie?

I wouldn't be so sure.

If the browns go 10-6 after the mess last year then hell has frozen over and the apocalypse is near. Nothing else will matter.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Suppose the Browns go 10-6, and make the playoffs. Do you then ditch the guy that took you there, and replace him with a rookie?

I wouldn't be so sure.

A lot of us expected the Browns to be semi-competitive and win four or five games last year. We won zero and were an absolute embarrassment. I'll believe Hue Jackson's dumb ass can lead a team to ten wins when it actually happens.

 

[CBBI]

Depends how this team does. If it has a very good season, there's a chance we keep Taylor and trade the rook.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7fCQlUhj0

 

[Soda]

Spoiler alert. 22.

 

[bcort]

Spoiler alert. 22.

We're mentioned before number 30!


But really what I took from this is that after the top four, a number of guys could be next.

 

[MGMT]

Kind of crazy how many above-average quarterbacks are in the league now. 22 isn’t too bad to be honest; he’s capable of having a season to get him in that 14-18 ecehelon and if he gets there the capital we surrendered would be absolutely fair, IMO.

Doing some research on the guy has changed my perception of the particulars of the acquisition in a positive sense.

 

[macbdog]

Would going from 0-16 to 10-6 be the biggest turnaround in NFL history?

 

[TheAdmin]

Would going from 0-16 to 10-6 be the biggest turnaround in NFL history?

Right up there with the 2008 Dolphins but just shy of the Rams I'd think. They went 4-12 and won the Superbowl the next year.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Right up there with the 2008 Dolphins but just shy of the Rams I'd think. They went 4-12 and won the Superbowl the next year.