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But really what I took from this is that after the top four, a number of guys could be next.

3 of the top 4 might be out of football in the next 2 years also.
 
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Wentz is way too high. He's not above Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, or Cam Newton

Brees should be number 3 ahead of Ben

Andrew Luck top 10 after missing a whole ass season?

Jameis above Dak? Hell no. Matter of fact Jameis is too damn high

Alex Smith is too damn low

How is it that people will quickly debunk Flacco and Eli yet give some of these other QB's a pass?
 
Wentz is way too high. He's not above Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, or Cam Newton

Brees should be number 3 ahead of Ben

Andrew Luck top 10 after missing a whole ass season?

Jameis above Dak? Hell no. Matter of fact Jameis is too damn high

Alex Smith is too damn low

How is it that people will quickly debunk Flacco and Eli yet give some of these other QB's a pass?
Carson Wentz was on his way to NFL MVP. If I was starting a franchise today and could pick any player in the NFL, he'd be my first overall pick.

Flacco and Eli get debunked because they turn the ball over too freakin' much.

There are definitely some problems with the order, but on these two points, I think they're fair.

I agree on Jameis. He's.... kind of bleh right now.
 
Carson Wentz was on his way to NFL MVP. If I was starting a franchise today and could pick any player in the NFL, he'd be my first overall pick.

I'd have ranked Wentz higher before watching his back-up step in without a hitch and win the Super Bowl, which leads me to believe that Wentz's success is as much coaching and system as Wentz himself.
 
Carson Wentz was on his way to NFL MVP. If I was starting a franchise today and could pick any player in the NFL, he'd be my first overall pick.

Flacco and Eli get debunked because they turn the ball over too freakin' much.

There are definitely some problems with the order, but on these two points, I think they're fair.

I agree on Jameis. He's.... kind of bleh right now.

Andrew luck was on his way to multiple MVP seasons as well. Where is he now?
 
Andrew luck was on his way to multiple MVP seasons as well. Where is he now?
Well, if he was healthy, Luck would be top 5 on this list. Carson Wentz has not ruined his throwing shoulder, thus, he's currently top five.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with bringing up Luck.
 
I'd have ranked Wentz higher before watching his back-up step in without a hitch and win the Super Bowl, which leads me to believe that Wentz's success is as much coaching and system as Wentz himself.
All successful quarterbacks are partly successful due to having competent coaching.

You saw the throws Carson Wentz was making. The dude is a stud.

I don't understand why we are trying to down-play how good the guy is--perhaps because we passed on him. He's fantastic.
 
Well, if he was healthy, Luck would be top 5 on this list. Carson Wentz has not ruined his throwing shoulder, thus, he's currently top five.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with bringing up Luck.

The point is we should wait and see how well guys perform after suffering major injuries. Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Rivers have all had major injuries and came back and still play at a high level. You can't find a single person who can even tell you what's wrong with Andrew Luck or who knows when he'll play again. Watson and Wentz are barely scratching the surface. Maybe see how well the perform after their major injuries before we start crowning them.
 
The point is we should wait and see how well guys perform after suffering major injuries. Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Rivers have all had major injuries and came back and still play at a high level. You can't find a single person who can even tell you what's wrong with Andrew Luck or who knows when he'll play again. Watson and Wentz are barely scratching the surface. Maybe see how well the perform after their major injuries before we start crowning them.
I mean, it's a list of the current top 32 quarterbacks going into the season. It's not some all-time list where we have to let their careers play out. I'm not seeing your point.
 
I mean, it's a list of the current top 32 quarterbacks going into the season. It's not some all-time list where we have to let their careers play out. I'm not seeing your point.

Carson Wentz and Andrew Luck might not even start the season and they're in the top 10. How? Andrew Luck hasn't thrown a football in months. Wentz knee was shredded and they aren't sure he'll be ready to start the season.
 
All successful quarterbacks are partly successful due to having competent coaching.

You saw the throws Carson Wentz was making. The dude is a stud.

I don't understand why we are trying to down-play how good the guy is--perhaps because we passed on him. He's fantastic.

I'm not saying he sucks. I'm just saying that his back-up stepped in and played just as well as Wentz did, and even won the team the Super Bowl. Thus, I'm inclined to believe that it's the system as much as the guys running it, if not more.
 
Carson Wentz and Andrew Luck might not even start the season and they're in the top 10. How? Andrew Luck hasn't thrown a football in months. Wentz knee was shredded and they aren't sure he'll be ready to start the season.
I absolutely agree on Luck, by the way. I'm just saying Wentz, word is he's going to be ready, and at this point--not to make light of a serious injury--but people recover from ACL injuries all the time.
 
I'm not saying he sucks. I'm just saying that his back-up stepped in and played just as well as Wentz did, and even won the team the Super Bowl. Thus, I'm inclined to believe that it's the system as much as the guys running it, if not more.
I acknowledge Doug Pederson's genius. He's creative as hell. I just don't think it's mutually exclusive to the point that we can't see both of their greatness.
 

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