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And you're the guy who said benching him was a mistake. Hilarious.

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I said playing musical QBs every week was idiotic and It was
 
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Here's the thing though. A team with maybe 3 win talent is still a team grossly lacking talent.

I don’t disagree with you.

The Browns aren’t a overly talented team. They’re probably a 4-12 or 5-11 roster right now with some breaks.

That’s not good enough obviously.

But the coaching is just the worst in the NFL.
 
Nobody could win with Kizer throwing away game after game. That's just another bullshit assumption.

Add any middle of the road veteran QB to this team and you could then say we're good enough to win some games. But not with Kizer being the best QB on the roster.

Enough talent my ass.

They have four 3 point losses and another loss in overtime this year.

The aren’t getting drilled by three touchdowns every week.
 
I don’t disagree with you.

The Browns aren’t a overly talented team. They’re probably a 4-12 or 5-11 roster right now with some breaks.

That’s not good enough obviously.

But the coaching is just the worst in the NFL.
The coaching is the worst but the roster is bottom 5. And the roster is a hell of a lot more important than coaching. I honestly could give a fuck we have 0 wins instead of 3 right now due to coaching. It's actually a good thing for the future of this team. Bottom line this team sucks regardless of coaching.
 
The coaching is the worst but the roster is bottom 5. And the roster is a hell of a lot more important than coaching. I honestly could give a fuck we have 0 wins instead of 3 right now due to coaching. It's actually a good thing for the future of this team. Bottom line this team sucks regardless of coaching.

Answer this question for me...

If the Browns coaching staff just achieved, forget about overachieving, if they just performed at a normal baseline level and went 3-13 last year and were sitting at 4-10 this year with two games to go, is anyone calling for Sashi OR Hue’s head?

Considering how upfront the front office was from the jump about their plan, I don’t think so.

Not to mention, I think it’s a lot easier for Haslam optics wise to stay the course if they aren’t 1-31.
 
We could’ve drafted on auto-pick and this roster would be light years ahead of where we are now.
 
This entire board doesn’t get paid millions of dollars to evaluate talent and make picks. Conversely, every scout knew Kizer was a bad prospect but here we are.

Funny because I don't think you realize that you proclaimed that YOU would rather have taken a shot on Wentz/Watson. YOU specifically.
 
Funny because I don't think you realize that you proclaimed that YOU would rather have taken a shot on Wentz/Watson. YOU specifically.
And so would every other team and GM. The hell is your point?
 
I'd gladly give Cincinnati Hue Jackson.

It'll be better for Dorsey to pick his HC.
 
Answer this question for me...

If the Browns coaching staff just achieved, forget about overachieving, if they just performed at a normal baseline level and went 3-13 last year and were sitting at 4-10 this year with two games to go, is anyone calling for Sashi OR Hue’s head?

Considering how upfront the front office was from the jump about their plan, I don’t think so.

Not to mention, I think it’s a lot easier for Haslam optics wise to stay the course if they aren’t 1-31.
There's no excuse for this roster being bottom 5 in the league given all the opportunities that were there to make it exceptionally better.

So, yes, I would still be calling for heads to roll. This 3 or 4 win team "underachieving" has been a blessing in more ways than one.
 
Anyway...Giants still in it against Philly!
 
I'd gladly give Cincinnati Hue Jackson.

It'll be better for Dorsey to pick his HC.
With a big orange and brown bow around his bald head.

Today was so bad I'm now on the "wipe the slate clean" bandwagon.

I saw no redeeming qualities today. No improvement anywhere. Just the shitty status quo and regression in a number of areas.
 
He sucked in College too. Even his coach knew it. Everyone knew it...except our Front Office.

Tried telling people, as a ND fan, he really isn't that good.

I never wanted him as the QB. Thought it was a laughable selection.
 
The coaching is the worst but the roster is bottom 5. And the roster is a hell of a lot more important than coaching. I honestly could give a fuck we have 0 wins instead of 3 right now due to coaching. It's actually a good thing for the future of this team. Bottom line this team sucks regardless of coaching.

How can you say that coaching doesn't matter? Look at how much better Goff looks this year with good coaching versus last year with terrible coaching. Coaching definitely matters, and good coaching elevates the level of play of your talent.
 
How can you say that coaching doesn't matter? Look at how much better Goff looks this year with good coaching versus last year with terrible coaching. Coaching definitely matters, and good coaching elevates the level of play of your talent.
Point me to where I said coaching doesn't matter?
 

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