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Not a big fan of blue-collars, either. The others are pretty cool, to me.
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I know it's kind of childish but I love the Cleveland Sound logo haha
Also like this logo, but not really down with the name Sentinels, would be a perfect logo for Cleveland Gaurdians. Logo is based off the Hope Bridge Statues btw
A sentinel is just another name for a guardian...but I'd hate that name because it would just make me think of The Replacements and Keanu Reeves...
Going to be hard for them to entirely re-brand, and even harder for that re-brand to not sound like a minor league team, if they want the team name to tie in with the city.
"Spiders" still seems like the logical choice out of all the suggested name changes and re-brands that I have seen to this point. I personally think it would be awesome to see the team Cy Young debuted with, spent most of his career with, and went into the Hall of Fame as come back...
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I know it's kind of childish but I love the Cleveland Sound logo haha
Also like this logo, but not really down with the name Sentinels, would be a perfect logo for Cleveland Gaurdians. Logo is based off the Hope Bridge Statues btw
No... to all of it.
We're the Cleveland Indians. Deal with it snowflakes.
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I'm against snowflakery. Vehemently.
This ain't that. It's rational.
My two cents.
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Cleveland Snowflakes I could get behind that great suggestion
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Those names are mostly terrible. I won't buy a single piece of merchandise if they go Spiders. Sorry, I just don't do spiders. Just seeing that logo with the spider and his ass end in the shape of a baseball sent a shiver down my spine.
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Consultant to Chief Wahoo protester Robert Roche charged with embezzling federal money designed for Native Americans: Mark Naymik
CLEVELAND, Ohio - A consultant to one of the leaders of the anti-Chief Wahoo movement stole more than $183,000 in federal grants designed to help Native Americans in Northeast Ohio, federal investigators say.
Acting U.S. Attorney David A. Sierleja charged Craig McGuire, 47, of suburban Columbus, today via a criminal information, which usually means the defendant is cooperating with the investigation.
This case is worth talking about because the investigation - which Sierleja said is ongoing -- is really about a Cleveland man named Robert Roche, a well-known Native American who's received wide attention for his opposition to the Cleveland Indians' Chief Wahoo logo.
Roche has served as executive director of the American Indian Education Center, a Parma-based nonprofit established in 1995 to support Native American causes. I documented in columns in 2014 and 2015 that Roche was under scrutiny by state and federal officials for how he spent tax dollars. McGuire is a consultant who wrote grant applications for Roche.
The charges filed Thursday against McGuire do not identify Roche by name. But the information states McGuire wrote grants for an individual with the initials R.R. who served as executive director of the American Indian Education Center in Parma. McGuire and R.R. conspired to embezzle more than $180,000, according to the information. Roche has not been charged. (You can read the information charges below this story.)
Messages left for McGuire and Roche were not returned before publication.
Roche has been a vocal advocate for the need for more resources for Native Americans and has been the face of the movement to rid this town of Chief Wahoo. In 2014, Roche, who is Chiricahua Apache Indian, announced he and others planned to sue the Indians over the use of Chief Wahoo for $9 billion - a threat that never materialized in court.
On behalf of the Roche's organization, McGuire applied for a "Circle of Care" grant, which was offered through the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), the information states. The grant is supposed to support mental health and wellness programs for Native American children and families.
The center's application contained numerous false statements, including a claim the center had a wellness department and a "Positive Paths" after school program when no such department or program existed, according to the charges. It fraudulently listed people the center allegedly employed and mischaracterized the description of the storefront building and physical amenities, according to the information.
"This defendant blatantly lied on grant applications to get money designated to help one of our most vulnerable populations," Sierleja said in a statement. "He used the money to enrich himself nearly as fast as he got it."
Lamont Pugh III, Special Agent in Charge with the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services' Office of Inspector General, which investigates SAMHSA grants, added, "The intentional falsification of information in a federal grant application in order to receive funds is a serious crime."
A three-count criminal information charges McGuire with one count of conspiracy to commit theft concerning programs receiving federal funds and two counts of theft of government funds.
The information also states that R.R. directed McGuire to apply for the "Circle of Care" grant and that R.R. paid himself tens of thousands of dollars as the project coordinator of the programs funded by the grant. The information also said that R.R. paid McGuire with grant money, which is prohibited by grant rules.
In 2014, I began questioning Roche about his center's activities after I learned that the Ohio Attorney General's Office was investigating an anonymous tip that Roche was misspending grant money. At the time, Roche told me he had nothing to hide and that he could document the center's spending.
Roche's organization received more than $1.4 million in government grants from 2008 through 2012, according to the center's latest available federal tax return in 2014. That year, Roche listed the center's primary activity as "providing re-entry services," and he paid himself $153,000 in salary and benefits that year, according to the tax filing.
After that column, I asked SAMHSA for records related to any grants requested by Roche's organization. SAMHSA denied my request because the records were part of an ongoing investigation into Roche's center. At the time, Roche told me that he was unaware of any federal investigation and that he had satisfied all of SAMHSA's concerns in previous months.
"We have accounted for everything," he told me in 2015. "We met the timelines they (SAMHSA) requested."
I left a message for Roche Thursday about the charges against his grant writer and about the reference to R.R. in the charging documents. I hope to hear from him soon, presumably long before the team's home opener on April 11.
As I have said before, Native Americans need a champion - not an activist under federal scrutiny.
http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2017/03/consultant_to_chief_wahoo_prot.html#incart_2box
Another liberal caught taking advantage of SJW's to pad their pockets.
CLEVELAND, Ohio - A consultant to one of the leaders of the anti-Chief Wahoo movement stole more than $183,000 in federal grants designed to help Native Americans in Northeast Ohio, federal investigators say.
Acting U.S. Attorney David A. Sierleja charged Craig McGuire, 47, of suburban Columbus, today via a criminal information, which usually means the defendant is cooperating with the investigation.
This case is worth talking about because the investigation - which Sierleja said is ongoing -- is really about a Cleveland man named Robert Roche, a well-known Native American who's received wide attention for his opposition to the Cleveland Indians' Chief Wahoo logo.
Roche has served as executive director of the American Indian Education Center, a Parma-based nonprofit established in 1995 to support Native American causes. I documented in columns in 2014 and 2015 that Roche was under scrutiny by state and federal officials for how he spent tax dollars. McGuire is a consultant who wrote grant applications for Roche.
The charges filed Thursday against McGuire do not identify Roche by name. But the information states McGuire wrote grants for an individual with the initials R.R. who served as executive director of the American Indian Education Center in Parma. McGuire and R.R. conspired to embezzle more than $180,000, according to the information. Roche has not been charged. (You can read the information charges below this story.)
Messages left for McGuire and Roche were not returned before publication.
Roche has been a vocal advocate for the need for more resources for Native Americans and has been the face of the movement to rid this town of Chief Wahoo. In 2014, Roche, who is Chiricahua Apache Indian, announced he and others planned to sue the Indians over the use of Chief Wahoo for $9 billion - a threat that never materialized in court.
On behalf of the Roche's organization, McGuire applied for a "Circle of Care" grant, which was offered through the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), the information states. The grant is supposed to support mental health and wellness programs for Native American children and families.
The center's application contained numerous false statements, including a claim the center had a wellness department and a "Positive Paths" after school program when no such department or program existed, according to the charges. It fraudulently listed people the center allegedly employed and mischaracterized the description of the storefront building and physical amenities, according to the information.
"This defendant blatantly lied on grant applications to get money designated to help one of our most vulnerable populations," Sierleja said in a statement. "He used the money to enrich himself nearly as fast as he got it."
Lamont Pugh III, Special Agent in Charge with the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services' Office of Inspector General, which investigates SAMHSA grants, added, "The intentional falsification of information in a federal grant application in order to receive funds is a serious crime."
A three-count criminal information charges McGuire with one count of conspiracy to commit theft concerning programs receiving federal funds and two counts of theft of government funds.
The information also states that R.R. directed McGuire to apply for the "Circle of Care" grant and that R.R. paid himself tens of thousands of dollars as the project coordinator of the programs funded by the grant. The information also said that R.R. paid McGuire with grant money, which is prohibited by grant rules.
In 2014, I began questioning Roche about his center's activities after I learned that the Ohio Attorney General's Office was investigating an anonymous tip that Roche was misspending grant money. At the time, Roche told me he had nothing to hide and that he could document the center's spending.
Roche's organization received more than $1.4 million in government grants from 2008 through 2012, according to the center's latest available federal tax return in 2014. That year, Roche listed the center's primary activity as "providing re-entry services," and he paid himself $153,000 in salary and benefits that year, according to the tax filing.
After that column, I asked SAMHSA for records related to any grants requested by Roche's organization. SAMHSA denied my request because the records were part of an ongoing investigation into Roche's center. At the time, Roche told me that he was unaware of any federal investigation and that he had satisfied all of SAMHSA's concerns in previous months.
"We have accounted for everything," he told me in 2015. "We met the timelines they (SAMHSA) requested."
I left a message for Roche Thursday about the charges against his grant writer and about the reference to R.R. in the charging documents. I hope to hear from him soon, presumably long before the team's home opener on April 11.
As I have said before, Native Americans need a champion - not an activist under federal scrutiny.
http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2017/03/consultant_to_chief_wahoo_prot.html#incart_2box
Another liberal caught taking advantage of SJW's to pad their pockets.
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Cant wait to see the opening day protestors, only for them to go away after the 1st homestand.
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It's just not in the budget to protest all year
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Wonder if he attended Trump's memorial to Andrew Jackson.
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