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col63onel said:
One of my coaches had a saying “Everyone is an all-American in shorts”.

Getting excited about OTAs is like getting excited over batting practice.
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The Browns are in a situation where this guy can ride pine for 1, maybe 2 years. That's what you WANT. I honestly don't care at this point if he looks good in practice. I want him to be learning the game, getting practice reps and learning from Tyrod.

"Darnold is lighting it up in practice!"

Good for him. Baker is going to be QB2 this year. This is a BAD football team until proven otherwise. I don't want a rookie QB out there being baptized by fire trying to get this thing on track.
 
Impressive thing about that clip is Mayfield's demeanor. He never lost his cool or looked the slightest bit rattled. He maintained that same relaxed, totally in-control attitude he shows everywhere else. That's a fantastic leadership trait.

I preferred Darnold, and maybe Darnold will end up the better QB. But it's okay even if Mayfield doesn't turn out to be the absolute best QB out of this class. As long as he's a high-quality franchise guy, I can live with some other guy being slightly better.
 
I don't think his leadership was ever in question.

Even from the Thomahawk podcast, he said he needs to take the playbook, study the shit outta it and come back for camp in a little over a month.

He keeps praising Tyrod and the situation that he is in and I fully believe him.

If he starts this year, okay.

If he sits all year and learns and prepares for 2019, fantastic.
 
Hurl Bruce said:
That's my QB!!!

And anyone that cares about what Goldhammer says about football is stupid. It sounded like today's show was dedicated to ribs...on the day of the draft no less. It was probably the show where they understood what they were talking about the most.
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I think it’s more like anyone that cares what Goldhammer says about ANYTHING is stupid.
 
Triple-S said:
The Browns are in a situation where this guy can ride pine for 1, maybe 2 years. That's what you WANT. I honestly don't care at this point if he looks good in practice. I want him to be learning the game, getting practice reps and learning from Tyrod.

"Darnold is lighting it up in practice!"

Good for him. Baker is going to be QB2 this year. This is a BAD football team until proven otherwise. I don't want a rookie QB out there being baptized by fire trying to get this thing on track.
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If he’s riding the pine in year 2 then he was probably a wasted pick. That would be inexcusable. He’s on his rookie deal, take advantage of it.
 
col63onel said:
One of my coaches had a saying “Everyone is an all-American in shorts”.

Getting excited about OTAs is like getting excited over batting practice.
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Pinch your nostrils together and say "content!"

That's all that little talking head cares about.
 
Soda said:
Pinch your nostrils together and say "content!"

That's all that little talking head cares about.
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Yep. And really, that is his job, after all.
 
In case someone wanted to see the whole Cowherd interview...

This guy's fire is fun. You can tell why teammates like him.

Cowherd said the Browns don't have talent. Baker interrupts him, offended, cuts him off and says "Have you seen Tyrod Taylor?"

He's a hell of a teammate.

 
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BMAN said:
If he’s riding the pine in year 2 then he was probably a wasted pick. That would be inexcusable. He’s on his rookie deal, take advantage of it.
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Or it could mean that Tyrod is actually a solid starting QB, and it would grant Baker even more time to learn.

Not trying to treat the guy like a fabriege egg, but generally successful pro teams don't try to rush out prospects they highly value unless they're literally left with no other options.

Trial by fire has probably destroyed quite a few prospects that could have perhaps done something with their careers.

Taylor knows what he's doing, has been in the NFL, knows all this stuff. Let him take the lumps for a few years while this roster develops into something "passable" for Mayfield.
 
Bucky Brooks has an opinion on this also.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...defensive-triplets-jameis-winston-on-thin-ice

2) Gap between Cleveland QBs allows Baker Mayfield to actually develop.

When the reports coming out of Cleveland this week suggested that Baker Mayfield "didn't look ready to compete" with Tyrod Taylor for the Browns' QB1 job, I wasn't too surprised.

The No. 1 overall pick and Heisman Trophy winner not only needs time to adjust to the pro game, but he is battling an underrated veteran quarterback who is a much better player than the football world acknowledges. Since 2015, Taylor has posted a 51:16 touchdown-to-interception ratio (third-best in the NFL during that span, behind only Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers) and a 92.5 passer rating. Not to mention, he also has 1,575 rushing yards and 14 rushing scores in that time period, which ranks only behind former NFL MVP Cam Newton.

Owning a 22-20 career record and a playoff appearance as a starter, Taylor is a proven commodity at the position. With that in mind, I don't think many Browns veterans are surprised by Taylor's offseason performance.

"It kind of shows what a vet quarterback is," Duke Johnson told reporters last week at Browns' minicamp, via Cleveland.com. "The way he handles the huddle, the way he anticipates throws, the way his knowledge is for the game. It just shows. I think the only other quarterback I've had like that since I've been here is probably Josh McCown, if I'm not mistaken. Definitely, Josh was another kind of vet quarterback that did everything that vet quarterbacks do. Tyrod is definitely a guy that we have a lot of trust in and we believe that he's always going to put the ball in the right places, as long as we protect him and keep him off the ground and keep him on his feet, we'll be alright."

To that point, we should see an even better version of Taylor with the Browns, based on his outstanding supporting cast. No. 5 is surrounded by one of the best receiving corps in football, with a pair of Pro Bowl-caliber playmakers in Josh Gordon and Jarvis Landry anchoring an aerial attack that's loaded with size, athleticism and explosiveness. With Johnson and Carlos Hyde adding some sizzle as runner/receivers out of the backfield, Taylor can push the ball down the field with vertical tosses, or work sideline to sideline on "dink and dunk" throws to speedy pass catchers on the move on quicks and crossers. Considering the challenge defensive coordinators face defending every blade of grass between the white lines, Taylor could be more efficient and effective as a passer.

"This is his fourth year starting in the NFL. He's just coming into his own and this is just the tip of the iceberg," quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese said at minicamp, via Cleveland.com. "We haven't seen the best from him."

For Mayfield, the presence of a solid veteran quarterback should allow him to ease into the QB1 role when he's ready. He will not only get a chance to acclimate to the speed of the pro game by running the scout team against the Browns' No. 1 defense, but he will have the opportunity to watch a veteran with a similar set of skills direct an offense that's been designed with the former Heisman Trophy winner in mind. If Mayfield's locked in and paying attention from the sidelines, he can get enough mental reps to help him play faster and more decisive when he eventually gets his chance.

Remember, the Browns have failed to effectively develop a young quarterback since the franchise's return to Cleveland because they've rushed QB1s onto the field and haven't surrounded them with strong supporting casts.

With Taylor reportedly seizing the QB1 job during offseason workouts, the Browns could finally take their time developing their future quarterback while winning games with an upgraded roster that looks ready to compete in the AFC North.
 
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