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Cleveland Indians 2018-2019 Offseason Outlook

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BMAN said:
Why don’t you like the Dolans? Can’t be because of having one of the best front offices/manager combos in the league. And the best front office in Cleveland.
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Didn't do shit after one amazing 2007 season. He could've told management do whatever it takes by any means because we are very close. The David Dellucci type signings ate me alive too.


"I don't want one World Series for the city of Cleveland," Dolan told reporters in Cleveland. "I want a string of them." He's in the wrong sport to want championships but not buy them.

Last year's payroll probably set a record in his check books, times are changing in the world of sports, money keeps getting higher. Now he's chopping it, but I can't blame him because fan support didn't change much.

There was also some quotes on pitching when he bought the team. Those same quotes were brought up when he traded 2 Cy Young's because he couldn't retain them. The best thing the Dolans did was bringing in Tito. The Indians had bad scouting/drafting for a good time too so let's not be fooled. They've been great recently as Lindor though, let's remember they did clean house in that department.

More bad things will come when Lindor walks too. This franchise and ownership is one big wash, rinse, repeat cycle. The life of baseball.

Blame the market, blame the fans, but you damn sure can blame ownership too.

I'll forever appreciate the Dolan's for hiring Tito though, it really did change the landscape of our organization. We was a joke prior to that.
 
Real Deal said:
Didn't do shit after one amazing 2007 season. He could've told management do whatever it takes by any means because we are very close. The David Dellucci type signings ate me alive too.


"I don't want one World Series for the city of Cleveland," Dolan told reporters in Cleveland. "I want a string of them." He's in the wrong sport to want championships but not buy them.

Last year's payroll probably set a record in his check books, times are changing in the world of sports, money keeps getting higher. Now he's chopping it, but I can't blame him because fan support didn't change much.

There was also some quotes on pitching when he bought the team. Those same quotes were brought up when he traded 2 Cy Young's because he couldn't retain them. The best thing the Dolans did was bringing in Tito. The Indians had bad scouting/drafting for a good time too so let's not be fooled. They've been great recently as Lindor though, let's remember they did clean house in that department.

More bad things will come when Lindor walks too. This franchise and ownership is one big wash, rinse, repeat cycle. The life of baseball.

Blame the market, blame the fans, but you damn sure can blame ownership too.

I'll forever appreciate the Dolan's for hiring Tito though, it really did change the landscape of our organization. We was a joke prior to that.
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Shit was 10 years ago. Let it go
 
Derek said:
If you think a lack of intensity or enthusiasm led to our early playoff exit last year then I don't know what to tell you
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Yep. It was much more that the team isn’t close to the level of the teams they have to go through in the AL.
 
Chris said:
He gone
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We won't be hanging up central division banners on whatever that bullshit is in the upper decks for another half decade.

Lindor is the team. He's brought the winning attitude and play ever since he was called up.
 
Lindor settles with the Indians for 10.55M.

Bauer is going to arbitration.
 
Started the season as #5 in the Nats rotation. Quickly flamed out and finished the year in the Yankees bullpen. Consider me intrigued with a full spring training working out of the bullpen
 
Real Deal said:
Sack up and re-sign Lindor and all will be forgotten.
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Sorry bud, the chances of Lindor resigning with Cleveland are about zero. Even if we offered him 20/yr he would walk. He would know we couldn’t improve anymore.
 
Cole is an interesting get, but his career WHIP is 1.49 which is pretty awful.

If we move Kluber/Bauer somehow, you could do worse than a rotation of Kluber or Bauer/Carrasco/Clevinger/Bieber/Cole to start the season out.

I just want us to maximize on the talent we still currently have. Lindor isn't going to be here much longer, and I at least want to compete while he still is.
 
Chris said:
Yep. It was much more that the team isn’t close to the level of the teams they have to go through in the AL.
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Frankly, for whatever other shortcomings they had, if Miller/Allen weren’t shells of their former selves our outlook would have been much more favorable.
 
Derek said:
Frankly, for whatever other shortcomings they had, if Miller/Allen weren’t shells of their former selves our outlook would have been much more favorable.
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Probably wouldve been a 100 win team and yes we’d all have felt much better going into that series, though probably still lose.
 
Chris said:
Probably wouldve been a 100 win team and yes we’d all have felt much better going into that series, though probably still lose.
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I don't disagree, but who knows though? The offense was pretty anemic.

Game 1 we lose with Kluber's performance

Game 2 the Indians were up 1-0 in the bottom of the 6th when Miller came into the game. I like '16 or '17 Miller to get out of that inning. From there we see if Miller, Hand, and Cody finish it off.

Game 3 the Indians were up 2-1 going into the 7th. The wheels came off for Bauer, who was only a few weeks off the DL and pitching for the 3rd time in 4 days. Again, another game the 2016 or 2017 Indians bullpen may be able to put away.
 
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