Maybe not immediately, but it would happen.This is now a vet group that's been to the playoffs 3 years in a row and earned a winning record 6 years in a row. If he decides to retire I don't think they will crumble.
Think the only way they move Kipnis's contract without eating 75%+ of it is if it's in a deal for a similar contract, like they did with Bourn and Swisher a few years ago.
Alonso/Kipnis for Bruce and a reliever?
Kipnis - 2019 - $14.5 M, 2020 - $16.5 M with $2.5 M buyout
Alonso - 2019 - $8 M, 2020 - $9 M vesting option
Bruce - 2019 - $13 M, 2020 - $13 M
Bruce/EE could share 1B/DH.
They traded Bourn, Swisher and 10 million for Chris Johnson. It ended up saving them 1.5 million in the long run. They would have to find someone looking to get rid of a bad contract with multiple years left in exchange for a bad Kipnis contract that will be off the books after next year.Think the only way they move Kipnis's contract without eating 75%+ of it is if it's in a deal for a similar contract, like they did with Bourn and Swisher a few years ago.
To me this is pretty weakSome interesting info. from Jason Lloyd's article today:
“I’m going to keep it really short,” Mike Clevinger said when asked to explain what happened in this series. “We were a little bit, I don’t know, kind of had our backs against the wall before this started when it came to the analytical side.”
And one Indians player, speaking privately, told me he believed the Astros’ batters were far better prepared for this series than Indians hitters. He believed the scouting reports were more intricate and the attention to detail was more precise.
“They’re [Houston] probably the furthest ahead, I would guess. But they haven’t even scratched the surface,” Bauer told Yahoo’s Jeff Passan in July. “I don’t know what all they have. They may have everything figured out and have been able to keep it under wraps. But I have my ear out there and I hear about what’s going on and they do a lot of things very, very well. There’s just other things that no one does that should be done.”
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQlTIz2DvQ
Kipnis weighs in a bit about this at the 1:50 min mark^
Bruce had a really rough season in 2018 and, as you note, is guaranteed 13 million in 2020 unlike Kipnis and Alonso. Unless you’re getting Seth Lugo back in that package, there’s no other reliever on their roster that would make me pull the trigger on that deal.
Some interesting info. from Jason Lloyd's article today:
“I’m going to keep it really short,” Mike Clevinger said when asked to explain what happened in this series. “We were a little bit, I don’t know, kind of had our backs against the wall before this started when it came to the analytical side.”
And one Indians player, speaking privately, told me he believed the Astros’ batters were far better prepared for this series than Indians hitters. He believed the scouting reports were more intricate and the attention to detail was more precise.
“They’re [Houston] probably the furthest ahead, I would guess. But they haven’t even scratched the surface,” Bauer told Yahoo’s Jeff Passan in July. “I don’t know what all they have. They may have everything figured out and have been able to keep it under wraps. But I have my ear out there and I hear about what’s going on and they do a lot of things very, very well. There’s just other things that no one does that should be done.”
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQlTIz2DvQ
Kipnis weighs in a bit about this at the 1:50 min mark^
So, better coaching? Not surprised.Some interesting info. from Jason Lloyd's article today:
“I’m going to keep it really short,” Mike Clevinger said when asked to explain what happened in this series. “We were a little bit, I don’t know, kind of had our backs against the wall before this started when it came to the analytical side.”
And one Indians player, speaking privately, told me he believed the Astros’ batters were far better prepared for this series than Indians hitters. He believed the scouting reports were more intricate and the attention to detail was more precise.
“They’re [Houston] probably the furthest ahead, I would guess. But they haven’t even scratched the surface,” Bauer told Yahoo’s Jeff Passan in July. “I don’t know what all they have. They may have everything figured out and have been able to keep it under wraps. But I have my ear out there and I hear about what’s going on and they do a lot of things very, very well. There’s just other things that no one does that should be done.”
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQlTIz2DvQ
Kipnis weighs in a bit about this at the 1:50 min mark^
I agree...give me a break...our team leaders other than Lindor failed to show up for the second year in a row for whatever reason. I also didn't like the teams body language all series....seemed to be defeated before the series even startedTo me this is pretty weak
This is an accountability problem. It’s just pointing fingers at the staff for the players’ deficiencies
Was it in the Astros scouting report that the Indians pitchers would commit 3 errors in a game? Or thr Cody Allen would come out and serve up meatballs all game (as if you needed a sophisticated scouting report for this).
Guys put together God awful at bats all series waving at garbage and it rubs me the wrong way to point to preparation over it. Own it.
To me this is pretty weak
This is an accountability problem. It’s just pointing fingers at the staff for the players’ deficiencies
Was it in the Astros scouting report that the Indians pitchers would commit 3 errors in a game? Or thr Cody Allen would come out and serve up meatballs all game (as if you needed a sophisticated scouting report for this).
Guys put together God awful at bats all series waving at garbage and it rubs me the wrong way to point to preparation over it. Own it.
I don't see our current OF crop being good enough to go toe to toe with the cream of the crop. We need a winning trade. We need to bring in a guy that is our 3rd or 4th best player in the lineup.
I like Greg Allen, but I would deal Zimmer, Naquin, Lonnie yesterday. Sheesh, we have a lot of OFs and none of them puts us over the top. There's no average power at best in these bats. That's a problem.