Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

[Rodzilla]

So, would you compare him to "a rich man's Boobie Gibson"?

It hasn't limited Kyrie to being a 6th man...

He is DEVELOPING, and he's obviously focusing on his own scoring first. I see no problem with it. None at all. He can't learn everything at once. That's not how LEARNING works. By developing a good base for his own scoring, it'll help open up other parts of the game for him, and it will help the game to slow down for him. Both of which should eventually help him setup other players more effectively.

Will he ever be a passing PG? I don't know. It's way to early to tell.

if he is developing then he should be in the D League or whatever it is called now, thats how learning works

he can learn to pass the ball to others and that will open things up for him to also score, then when he has figured that out he can return to the nba

the only thing he is learning right now is that its acceptable to have 157 shot attempts to 26 assists in his last 10 games and be -155

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

if he is developing then he should be in the D League or whatever it is called now, thats how learning works

he can learn to pass the ball to others and that will open things up for him to also score, then when he has figured that out he can return to the nba

the only thing he is learning right now is that its acceptable to have 157 shot attempts to 26 assists in his last 10 games and be -155

G-League wouldn't teach him a thing. He will just score more easily and think he is unstoppable, and then why learn to pass?

He needs to figure it out by himself and with the guidance of the "coaching" staff through the struggles. He is going to need to know what he needs to improve in order to get right. He won't learn that by dominating the competition...this is why he still has those flaws...he dominated the competition and palyed with inferior talent around him. That's not what you want.

 

[TitleTown]

if he is developing then he should be in the D League or whatever it is called now, thats how learning works

he can learn to pass the ball to others and that will open things up for him to also score, then when he has figured that out he can return to the nba

the only thing he is learning right now is that its acceptable to have 157 shot attempts to 26 assists in his last 10 games and be -155

Dumbest post on this topic so far. Bravo.

 

[inliner311]

I see a lot of the passes Sexton makes are slightly off time. They are on target, but he needs to get the ball out quicker. Similar problem around the basket. Some times he needs to attack a fraction of a second sooner.

He's telling 8th pick. He has passing skills, but they are just not there yet. Pass to Zizic that lead to a foul, lick out to 3 pt line that got picked off. He needs to get the ball out of his hands quicker.

People are acting like Kyrie was some kind of Maestro with his passes. He would pass out of a triple team and get an assist or get it to Tristan on the roll. This is revisionist history that Kyrie was some sick passer. He wasn't he sucked at passing and it was the main criticism his rookie year and was still a criticism before he left. Seems like Stevens is sort of getting through to him.

We have a rookie picked at 8 who is outperforming his slot right now and people are pissed.

You guys would have tried to trade De'aaron Fox if you had had him last year.

There is no spacing on this team, getting to the hole is hard AF, and Sextons whole game is built on that.

I actually thought that Dion had better natural vision to playmake for others than Kyrie did during that time. Whenever Kyrie was injured and Dion got full reigns of the offense, he seem to rake up a decent amount of assists. When the two weren't working as a pairing, I never understood why we didn't switch their roles and positions. I wanted to see a stretch of games where Dion was being the PG and Kyrie had to be a SG.

 

[I'mWithDan]

I think people are too narrow in how they make assessments on guys like Collin.

He was taken outside the top 5 and was a player in need of development. There are identified areas where he can improve but he looks like a player who will be in the NBA for a long time and he has nice upside, if he can correct a couple of his fixable issues.

Broad assessment, he looks like an NBA starter. His development will likely be a little more stagnant given the limitations of this roster and staff but he's shown enough to feel good about him moving forward IMO. That's most of what people should be concerned about. Game by game career assessment, for someone as young as Collin, generally doesn't tell you a whole lot.

 

[WorldFreeB]

Man if this kid ever "gets it" he's going to be great. He made a great pass under the basket by drawing 2 defenders and flipping a pass to I think it was Zizic (could have been Nance) ,,his vision hopefully improves with experience. I don't think playing with a guy like Clarkson helps him. He's learning bad habits playing with that guy. I get the feeling that he knows if he gives the ball up he will never get it back so he forces a lot of shots. I am very optimistic about him. He's only 19..he will improve.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Also, the season finder reminder......27 rookie guards have posted 15/3/2 on 40% shooting.

Collin is well above that 40% threshold but I wanted to expand it a bit to show where he ranks in certain categories, against a set of guys who (generally speaking), were very good NBA players.

FG% - 13th
3PT% - 2nd (low volume)
FT % - 4th
TS% - 17th
EFG% - 14th

It's encouraging to see that he's almost in the top half of all of those metrics. That's not to say he doesn't have a long way to go but against some really good peers, he's grading out roughly in the top half of those rookie guards in shooting efficiency.....and that is even with (what I think is) an ability to make significant improvement via shot selection / type frequency. That, to me, is exciting.

He lags in assists and rebounds out of that group but he is rebounding and assisting a tick better as a starter. Rebounding at his size is probably an area with little upside but I do think he can improve to a reasonable degree as a passer.

Anyway, just food for thought. Out of that list, Collin is also the second youngest player, behind only Kyrie, so he has age on his side as you try to project him forward.

Season finder isn't perfect but it provides a broader assessment of his play vs. his peers. And it helps keep in perspective how difficult it is to succeed as a smaller guard in the NBA, especially early.

 

[CavsFTW]

Finally, on my McCollum point, I have always thought Sexton was more of a two-guard. Vision is not a skill where guys usually improve... Or at least do not significantly improve. That will always limit Sexton's playmaking. But, Sexton clearly does not want to be a black hole. Hence I think a guy like McCollum, with a similar skill profile, is a fair comparison.

As far as best case scenarios are concerned, that's far and away the best comparison I've read on here. Heck, even some of Sexton's fiercest defenders have defended his playmaking skills by unintentionally describing him as an undersized SG.

 

[Jordan]

As far as best case scenarios are concerned, that's far and away the best comparison I've read on here. Heck, even some of Sexton's fiercest defenders have defended his playmaking skills by unintentionally describing him as an undersized SG.

Yeah, definitely best case. I could see it ending up a lot worse. But I find the CJ comparison more apt than the Kemba Walker one.

 

[Rodzilla]

Dumbest post on this topic so far. Bravo.

no the dumbest part is when people act like its not necessary for him to have learnt these things by now or that its not an instantaneous learn

 

[Nathan S]

Yeah, definitely best case. I could see it ending up a lot worse. But I find the CJ comparison more apt than the Kemba Walker one.

To be fair, though, Kemba came into the NBA at 21. If he had come into the NBA at 19, I'm not sure he would've been a noticeably better floor general than Sexton is now.

Jamal Murray is a good example of a player who, like Sexton, came into the NBA when he was pretty young and raw but now looks on track to develop into a bona-fide point guard.

 

[TitleTown]

no the dumbest part is when people act like its not necessary for him to have learnt these things by now or that its not an instantaneous learn

This is unreadable. Have some self respect.

 

[Rodzilla]

This is unreadable. Have some self respect.

what is your explanation about why he hasnt been able to learn about this yet?

is he slow?

 

[TitleTown]

what is your explanation about why he hasnt been able to learn about this yet?

is he slow?

Well, you're half way there with adding punctuation. Add some capital letters, and I'll answer your question.

 

[Rodzilla]

Well, you're half way there with adding punctuation. Add some capital letters, and I'll answer your question.

ok

why does a starting point guard need to LEARN how to PASS and set up teammates? isnt that basic FUNDAMENTAL basketball?

what's next? a fireman who needs to learn that water puts out the fire?