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Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%
  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%

  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
Sexton looks like he may become an elite scorer. He absolutely needs to improve his vision. It limits his playmaking and his ability to score efficiently at the rim. If he can develop even average vision, teams would not be able to double as easily when he drives, and Sexton could become one of the most difficult guards to defend.

To me, Sexton has three problems. First, as stated, vision. @InBoobieWeTrust touched on this a bit, but, it really limits a lot of his game. It was my biggest concern when we drafted him because - even in college - Sexton does not have great court vision, especially when he is driving. But, the good news is that this is a weakness where players usually improve.

Second, defense. Sexton tries hard, but just in general, he is not a naturally good defender. I think playing with a guy like Zizic helps Sexton, because it means the latter can just funnel a quicker guard into the paint. It would be nice, though, for Sexton to develop into a net-neutral defender in small-ball lineups.

Third, fit. He is not a true facilitator and he is small. This means the Cavs will either need to use Sexton as a sixth man; or conversely, draft/sign a tall facilitator. I think Sexton will be best with a point-forward type player.

Overall, I am much happier with Sexton's season than I thought I would be. He has qualities that will make him a long-time NBA player.
 
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Never thought I'd make this comparison, but he kind of reminds me of Jamal Murray.
 
Sexton looks like he may become an elite scorer. He absolutely needs to improve his vision. It limits his playmaking and his ability to score efficiently at the rim. If he can develop even average vision, teams would not be able to double as easily when he drives, and Sexton could become one of the most difficult guards to defend.

To me, Sexton has three problems. First, as stated, vision. @InBoobieWeTrust touched on this a bit, but, it really limits a lot of his game. It was my biggest concern when we drafted him because - even in college - Sexton does not have great court vision, especially when he is driving. But, the good news is that this is a weakness where players usually improve.

To me, the important part of this isn't that Sexton is a good three point shooter -- it's that he worked his ass off this season and became one. And not only did he become a better shooter, but he adjusted his game to take more three pointers, and fewer inefficient mid-range shots.

That makes all the difference, because it helps validate the scouting reports that he is both smart, and a very hard worker. He's never going to be John Stockton, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's around 6-7 apg for most of his career. Which is absolutely fine in an era where high-assist wing players are much more common.
 
To me, the important part of this isn't that Sexton is a good three point shooter -- it's that he worked his ass off this season and became one. And not only did he become a better shooter, but he adjusted his game to take more three pointers, and fewer inefficient mid-range shots.

That makes all the difference, because it helps validate the scouting reports that he is both smart, and a very hard worker. He's never going to be John Stockton, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's around 6-7 apg for most of his career. Which is absolutely fine in an era where high-assist wing players are much more common.
Yeah, I also think it is notable that he totally changed his shot profile. I'd be interested in how the efficiency numbers look for him if you divide the season in half.

Right, as I said, I think his best fit is next to a point-forward. If Sexton becomes a 6.5 apg guy that is an efficient scorer, finding a forward that can be the lead facilitator will open up the offense, and I think bring us closer to playoff contention.
 
Yeah, I also think it is notable that he totally changed his shot profile. I'd be interested in how the efficiency numbers look for him if you divide the season in half.

Right, as I said, I think his best fit is next to a point-forward. If Sextong becomes a 6.5 apg guy that is an efficient scorer, finding a forward that can be the lead facilitator will open up the offense, and I think bring us closer to playoff contention.

It's actually rather freakish how quickly he improved his three point shot. And it's not just that they happen to go in -- his shot form looks much better as well.
 
It's actually rather freakish how quickly he improved his three point shot. And it's not just that they happen to go in -- his shot form looks much better as well.
Who is the Cavs' coach that is working closest with Sexton? I think they should probably try and keep him because our player development has been great.
 
Who is the Cavs' coach that is working closest with Sexton? I think they should probably try and keep him because our player development has been great.

I don't know if it is Posey, but I see him talking to Sexton a lot around the bench. I think Posey is a guy they keep around.

Yeah, Sexton has really changed his game. He was taking so many long 2's and he is now taking like 1 a game. It's impressive. As far as the assists go, he seems to either have an assist game or a scoring game right now. The Toronto game was a nice taste of both. I do feel like that is the area where he is least comfortable, but he is moving the ball and so is the team so sometimes that means hockey assists which I am really fine with.

I just think all around his decision-making is much improved and it is great to see it carry over in a game without Love.

TS% of 55 after the allstar break.

I think those of us that thought he would would be somebody after Summer league were thinking of this type of player. Granted it was tough to see a big second year leap earlier in the season, but I think the tough hard knocks road of the season has shown a guy who doesn't quit and most impressively to me, doesn't get down through adversity.

Hard to put a limit on what he can become at this point. If he puts the energy into his other weak areas like he did with his shooting, what will happen then? His awareness of his weaknesses and willingness to talk about them is a fresh of breath air to me as I always worried when Kyrie just ignored they existed.
 
Right, as I said, I think his best fit is next to a point-forward. If Sexton becomes a 6.5 apg guy that is an efficient scorer, finding a forward that can be the lead facilitator will open up the offense, and I think bring us closer to playoff contention.

I also agree that next to a point forward or facilitator at another position is the best fit for Sexton. If you make him a 6th man, you take away one of Sexton's biggest strengths, which is his ability to push the pace to put constant pressure on the opposing team's defense and how he never gets tired. I think Sexton will look better when the coaches allow him to play 36-38 minutes.
 
I also agree that next to a point forward or facilitator at another position is the best fit for Sexton. If you make him a 6th man, you take away one of Sexton's biggest strengths, which is his ability to push the pace to put constant pressure on the opposing team's defense and how he never gets tired. I think Sexton will look better when the coaches allow him to play 36-38 minutes.

I'm not a fan of the 6th man campaign at this point either. It's possible that's where he tops out, but I really doubt that. He came into the league with a reputation as raw, but very smart, and a very hard worker. He's actually demonstrated that since he's been here. I also would expect him to go about his improvement systematically, focusing on one weakness at a time. He's gotta improve his court vision and his defense, and I think one thing he's going to work on with respect to the latter is his strength. I suspect that 5-6 years down the road, we're going to look at how skinny/slight he was as a rookie, and be completely shocked at how he has remade himself physically.
 
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I'm not a fan of the 6th man campaign at this point either. It's possible that's where he tops out, but I really doubt that. He came into the league with a reputation as raw, but very smart, and a very hard worker. He's actually demonstrated that since he's been here. I also would expect him to go about his improvement systematically, focusing on one weakness at a time. He's gotta improve his court vision and his defense, and I think one thing he's going to work on with respect to the latter is his strength. I suspect that 5-6 years down the road, we're going to look at how skinny/slight he was as a rookie, and be completely shocked at what he's remade himself physically.
I'm not sure about the smart, but he has a lot of heart. I don't think he'll be a star, and that should not be the expectation, but i think he can be a good player moving forward.
We need a star though, and unless Sexton evolves significantly, he's not it.
 
It's actually rather freakish how quickly he improved his three point shot. And it's not just that they happen to go in -- his shot form looks much better as well.

Agreed. Early on in the season his form looked like he was trying to catapult the ball into the hoop, now there's less hesitation. really great to see it.
 
I'm not sure about the smart....

Sexton has other attributes that will set him apart. Start with his intelligence. He made just one B in high school—the rest were A’s—and in his first semester of college, his grade point average was 4.0 and he earned a spot on Alabama’s President’s List. Despite having to travel the workout circuit in the run-up to the draft, he enrolled in what Alabama calls the May-mester, so he could keep working on earning his degree.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/06/10/collin-sexton-young-bull-who-can-quickly-make-difference
 
Sexton has other attributes that will set him apart. Start with his intelligence. He made just one B in high school—the rest were A’s—and in his first semester of college, his grade point average was 4.0 and he earned a spot on Alabama’s President’s List. Despite having to travel the workout circuit in the run-up to the draft, he enrolled in what Alabama calls the May-mester, so he could keep working on earning his degree.

https://www.nba.com/article/2018/06/10/collin-sexton-young-bull-who-can-quickly-make-difference
Even though that wasn't exactly what i meant, that's awesome to know, but what i meant was that i feel his BBIQ is not super high. I wasn't referring to his actual intelligence outside the court. The two can be related, but one doesn't exclude or guarantee the other.
 
Even though that wasn't exactly what i meant, that's awesome to know, but what i meant was that i feel his BBIQ is not super high. I wasn't referring to his actual intelligence outside the court. The two can be related, but one doesn't exclude or guarantee the other.

Just for me, I think he is bright because he is keenly aware of his limitations. He started the year not doing too much, and not doing what was out of his comfort Zone like shooting 3s. then as he got more comfortable he integrated it into his approach. He basically took one more 3 per game every month.

He also looked really lost and was ytruning the ball over like crazy initially. Everyone said he had no feel for the game.

The "no feel" thing is basically over after the allstar break. No he doesn't have the preternatural feel that a guy like Trae Young has who looks like a born pg, but he definitely has elite scoring instincts, and he shows flashes of being a very good passer after he breaks the defense. beginning of the year he wasn't actually breaking down the defense. He was bad at probing and finding weak spots. The past few weeks, he has been breaking the defense and passing it out when he gets doubled or there is just too much defensive presence in the paint. Adjusting to how the NBA game is played is feel for the game, and I think he looks like a totally different player and has changed his game to be more successful. that's not just school IQ that is BBall IQ.

In interviews, he gives a lot of the canned answers any rookie who has done media training might give, but he has a lot to say in losses.

He often says things like the ball wasn't moving, i missed some easy passes etc that are exactly the things I am seeing in the game that he was missing or other players were missing. He sees what is happening, and I think that is a big reason he has been able to adjust.

I think he is still pretty raw, he is young, and he has not been a top prospect until the last 2-3 years. That is what is most exciting to me. We might have a guy with a high ceiling and his growth as a shooter really indicates that he is able and willing to improve his game.
 

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