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Conspiracy Theories / Wild Predictions

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Wrathe, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. King Stannis

    King Stannis The One True King

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  2. A Squared

    A Squared Don't just stare at it..

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    Aaron Hernandez committed suicide because..under the state of Massachusetts laws...if you die during a appeal of a conviction.. automatically the original conviction becomes Null and void which means he never violated the New England Patriots contract thus his daughter is entitled to the remainder of the 15 million the Patriots promised him whether he died a day after he signed the contract.
     
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  3. The Human Q-Tip

    The Human Q-Tip War is Hell

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    Has that been verified by the Patriots themselves? Because I'm not sure the voidability of a contract is necessarily dependant on a conviction. The validity of voidability is likely determined as of the time the contract was voided, which presumably was years ago.

    Also, the underlying facts justifying the voiding of that contract still exist. It's just the criminal procedure itself that is invalidated, and teams terminate contracts without convictions all the time.
     
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    His fiance ordered the murder so the daughter could get his NFL money. The fiance will then now be able to spend her daughters money.
     
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    I really hope you can dig on this one, since I don't have the time or resources or skill to figure it out. Very interesting...

    http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/04/20/legal-loophole-patriots-nfl-pay-aaron-hernandez-family/ states that if $ awarded, victim's family will file civil suit to get it. I am not sure that's going to fly: the guy is dead, and ultimately you'd imagine a trust benefiting the daughter/fiance would be owed the $(???). Not sure a dead person's creditors have legit claim to that Maybe they do? Maybe they can have claim to other assets in his estate instead?
     
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    I know enough to be able to spot the issues and make some predictions based on common law, but actually coming up with a more definitive answer would require research into Massachusetts case and statutory law that would take too much work, and also a copy of his contract, which I don't have.

    That being said, I think it would be very unlikely that the erasure of the conviction would require those payments, because that would be penalizing employers by requiring them to pay for someone who performed no work. And while that wouldn't apply to a guaranteed bonus or something, that's such a unique situation that I don't think Mass. law would address it. So, any Mass. law that addresses the civil implications of the vacating of his conviction likely won't help him.

    In other words, I think the only effect of his death is in terms of criminality, or if there was some outside contract/right that expressly required a conviction to be waived. And NFL contracts generally don't have that. After all, teams have fired guys and refused to pay on a contract based on videos/reported conduct, before any conviction at all.

    As far as his heirs, pensions are generally protected from creditors (including lawsuits). But other assets, including wage compensation, are not. That's a pretty general rule.

    So the bottom line is I don't think his family will get anything extra from the Pats because of this, but I couldn't be sure unless I could read the actual contract, see if there was any post-termination grievance or resolution, and look at Mass. law.

    And I ain't doing all that.....
     
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    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

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    Man Called X Get your brooms ready.

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    Expert from MIT claiming the Syria gassing was detonated by forces on the ground, not dropped from the air. I giggle.

    Today there were widespread power outages in San Fran, LA, and NYC. No causes as of yet.

    Been saying for years that the power grid has been tampered with, and it was just a matter of the forces deciding to pull the trigger.

    Today was a test.
     
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    Mayor of Berkley is part of a terrorist organization (antifa).
     
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    Did we figure out which law Susan Rice broke yet?
     

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