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Meeting 2:

He cut the shit and hes asking me for tax help, about psychometry, brain chemistry, and how to get his kid off drugs.
 
Job offer. Student loan debt hustle. Its low hanging fruit with stability.. Two friends are there. Been pulling 6-8k a month for a couple years.

I dont know if i want to sacrifice being an independent contractor or if i want to go back to lying for a living.
 
2 hours into the program.. Met for hour 3 of 15 and presented the article i found on kleptomania profiling bc he was dealing with another case of a kleptomaniac. I showed him how to use google scholar. After failing to locate a print command i told him to hit control p. As the study was printing he told me we could consider the 15 hours complete. I wanted to at least be able to help other people if he wasnt able to help me, but he treated it as an opportunity to reward me.

This program is horrible.

He then went over the (what is supposed to be a private, anonymous) survey administered upon completion WITH ME, which obviously discouraged candor.

The letter he signed and sent to the judge was dishonest. Case worker lief about the details of our meetings and encouraged lying on the survey. He significantly exaggerated his role and what he accomplished. I know this is bureaucracy, but at some point bureaucracy covers up and promulgates so many lies that all you have is paper truth and solutions. House of cards.
 
prodocuctivity has reached 85% of what it was at peak performance ON drugs, which only lasted a week or two. im at a grand again, after 2-3 weeks of being incapable to function for much of the day (75% productivity of work ALONE, plus im able to do more outside of work than just sleep).

I was worried coming off that I'd be less intellectually curious.. No. its actually been a problem. There was.. an absoltue insatiable thirst, to the point where managing information was just not possible. Im just as interested, but the magnifying glass with the laser attached is gone. I can see the big picture more clearly.

There are ptsd like symptoms. I tend to think this is still part of coming off, I hope it clears up.

This drug should absolutey not be on the market. Look at a brain scan of someone on it.

Diet is a lot better. I was hard on myself for having a muffin today. Worst meal all week. 2 weeks ago I was eating a disugsting amount of food without any care.

Basketball every day, gym every other day.

Focusing on positive state of mind again, like I did when i got really 'zen' the first time I came off.

Program is complete. Attorney needs to get rid of the first case and then I can get a real job.

a buyer contacted me and gave me a number for a doctor. Im itching to contact them, and telling myself that if i just sell it I wont be at risk. and its an extra 500 a month for 45 minutes of work. luckily its still a hassle and I havent critically thought and decided its worth it.
 
Today I learned that calling someone a junkie that's a heroin addict is akin to calling a black person a n*****.

I can't stop laughing at the enabler mentality sweeping suburbia crying about heroin addiction.
 
Today I learned that calling someone a junkie that's a heroin addict is akin to calling a black person a n*****.

I can't stop laughing at the enabler mentality sweeping suburbia crying about heroin addiction.

It's terrible where I live. These people are getting brought back with narcan multiple times.

There should be a limit. Die once, the next time you're fucked.
 
It's terrible where I live. These people are getting brought back with narcan multiple times.

There should be a limit. Die once, the next time you're fucked.

It's been bad where I'm at for years now. Started about 9-10 years ago, gotten progressively worse.

We're also home to a wonderful "drug court" where the heroin junkies can join the program to get their records expunged. They get 12-18 shots of Vivitrol, and intense counselling etc. When they do well they get "words of encouragement from the judge, or sometimes even gift cards."

I just wish the people that keep calling it a disease could tell me what disease leads you to shooting up heroin in the first place. I just personally attribute it to stupidity and a lack of personal responsibility. Then you get the enablers telling you how hard it is for them and their loved ones. "Just wait til it's someone you love." And my response is always "I don't love stupid weak willed people and don't associate with them. So I've got nothing to worry about."
 
It's been bad where I'm at for years now. Started about 9-10 years ago, gotten progressively worse.

We're also home to a wonderful "drug court" where the heroin junkies can join the program to get their records expunged. They get 12-18 shots of Vivitrol, and intense counselling etc. When they do well they get "words of encouragement from the judge, or sometimes even gift cards."

I just wish the people that keep calling it a disease could tell me what disease leads you to shooting up heroin in the first place. I just personally attribute it to stupidity and a lack of personal responsibility. Then you get the enablers telling you how hard it is for them and their loved ones. "Just wait til it's someone you love." And my response is always "I don't love stupid weak willed people and don't associate with them. So I've got nothing to worry about."
Often its a result of opioid prescription manifesting in addiction and consequently the inability to retain prescription, that turns into shooting heroin because it's affordable.

I could get into the psychology of addiction, from insufficient coping capacity to genetic personality traits that make it substantially more likely someone uses drugs, all the way to what's likely an excess of toxoplasma in an addcits brain (equivalent to a parasite entering a fishes brain, taking over, and forevermore trying to get that fish eaten by a bird so the parasite can live on) . But I don't think k any of that would suffice for you.
 
Often its a result of opioid prescription manifesting in addiction and consequently the inability to retain prescription, that turns into shooting heroin because it's affordable.

I could get into the psychology of addiction, from insufficient coping capacity to genetic personality traits that make it substantially more likely someone uses drugs, all the way to what's likely an excess of toxoplasma in an addcits brain (equivalent to a parasite entering a fishes brain, taking over, and forevermore trying to get that fish eaten by a bird so the parasite can live on) . But I don't think k any of that would suffice for you.

Speaking solely about the junkies I know of or knew of, not one of them was on an opioid pain killer. They were all just looking for the next greatest buzz. I understand genetic predisposition to addiction, and I understand former pain killer addicts moving onto heroin because of availability and price.

Insufficient coping mechanisms is basically just admitting you're a weak minded individual that can't handle reality. No sympathy given. I haven't had the easiest life, and I do have genetic markers for addiction as well as a classic addictive personality. Still has never pushed me to do heroin.

But I also accept the consequences of the decisions I've made in my life which apparently isn't how life is supposed to work in today's society. I need to find others to blame for my own inferiority.
 
Speaking solely about the junkies I know of or knew of, not one of them was on an opioid pain killer. They were all just looking for the next greatest buzz. I understand genetic predisposition to addiction, and I understand former pain killer addicts moving onto heroin because of availability and price.

Insufficient coping mechanisms is basically just admitting you're a weak minded individual that can't handle reality. No sympathy given. I haven't had the easiest life, and I do have genetic markers for addiction as well as a classic addictive personality. Still has never pushed me to do heroin.

But I also accept the consequences of the decisions I've made in my life which apparently isn't how life is supposed to work in today's society. I need to find others to blame for my own inferiority.
Oh no, dont get me wrong man, Im just giving a clinical explaination as to why these people do this. And I dont take offense to any of this conversation, just for the record. ill even go further to posit that empathy and sympathy is counterproductive - for ANYONE - and i'd rather everyone inherit the philosophy of 'stoicism' which essentially posits that everyone is 100% responsible for their own outcomes. EVEN IF IT IS UNFAIR. because what good does empathy or symathy do anyone? not much, really. more harm than good, I think.


People admitting theyre weak doesnt mean they arent. They are aware of it. It doesnt make it any less true. Thats why going through N.A. was sort of difficult, because practically all of them relied on dogma (and ultimately, a cult of it, and many times religion) to set up strict boundaries so they could not let themselves harm themselves. and its legitimate, and a necessity. They know what they are doing. people forget that other people simply are not like you. Thats undertandably hard to imagine, but its true. Some people are veritably wired to fail.

Someone doing something for the first time is absolutely on them. It doesnt vindicate it, but you dont know the evil of something until its taken everything from you. They said the weed was bad, it wasnt. fuck it. They said the ecstasy was bad, it wasnt. Fuck it. They dont know what theyre talking about. Try the next big thing, eh? That mixed with normally just beihg young, uneducated as to the actual effects, and vulnerable is going to manifest in pervasive drug addiction. Not to mention media romanticizing drug addiction, which is patentedly absurd. There are a plethora of reasons to take a plethora of drugs. Some are pretty valid. I have been chewed up by adderal and I can still justify its use. Thats scary man. Army vets deal with injuries, as do athletes. Addiction is gonig to come with the territory. Just the admission that we're intellectualized animals should give a different understanding that when peole arent doing well, they try to fix it - or alleviate the symptoms if they cannot. Theyre often drawn to esape, whether it be mental or physical.

Economic strife leads to actual physical pain, looking at it through a neuroscientific lens. It plays upon the same receptors. So you fix the pain. How? go to do a doctor. Doctor gives you something highly addictive. Congrats, youre fucked.
 
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Some people are weak-minded. But a lot of people have very serious issues that would overwhelm the normal person.

Veterans with PTSD aren't weak-willed. They've been exposed to harrowing shit and stuff one cannot cope with.
 
Some people are weak-minded. But a lot of people have very serious issues that would overwhelm the normal person.

Veterans with PTSD aren't weak-willed. They've been exposed to harrowing shit and stuff one cannot cope with.
Ptsd is as close to hell on earth as you could get. They were hit with something they literally could not handle and their brain tries to reconcile by reliving it again and again and again, sometimes forever.
 

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