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so debated putting this in the goodell thread, so mods feel free to move it

here is a link to the he buzzfeed article, and i link that one because it actually mentions some of he stuff simmons said

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympl...pended-for-comments-about-nfl?bffbnews#1gj0rj

some of simmons quote
I’m just saying it. He is lying. I think that dude is lying. If you put him up on a lie detector test, that guy would fail. For all these people to pretend they didn’t know is such fucking bullshit. It really is — it’s such fucking bullshit. And for him to go in that press conference and pretend otherwise, I was so insulted. I really was.

i know a lot of people on here dont like simmons, but good for him speaking his mind. as for ESPN, they can continue to go fuck themselves. Remember everyone. In ESPN, the entertainment comes before the sports......
 
I still love that Simmons admitted Skip Bayless didn't believe any of the bullshit he always says on First Take. What a god awful show, how is it still on the air?
 
This makes ESPN look bad. They care more about staying on the NFL's good graces than letting one of their analysts practice freedom of speech.
 
I don't watch ESPN for the same reason I don't watch TMZ or read Perez Hilton. What is their general take on the Goodell/Rice thing?

Are they feigning horror AND supporting Goodell? Or just feigning horror?
 
This makes ESPN look bad. They care more about staying on the NFL's good graces than letting one of their analysts practice freedom of speech.

Uh...ESPN wrote the single most damning, well-researched article in this whole Goodell/Rice ordeal. They absolutely thrashed Goodell and the Ravens ownership in that OTL article. The difference is that that article was sourced, whereas Simmons made a bunch of bold claims that he had no evidence to back up, and then dared his bosses to do something about it.
 
Uh...ESPN wrote the single most damning, well-researched article in this whole Goodell/Rice ordeal. They absolutely thrashed Goodell and the Ravens ownership in that OTL article. The difference is that that article was sourced, whereas Simmons made a bunch of bold claims that he had no evidence to back up, and then dared his bosses to do something about it.

Simmons only said basically what the OTL report said, that Goodell is a liar

Not to mention: OTL is there specifically to do research and spew facts.

They don't pay Simmons to do that, they pay Simmons to state his opinion.
 
ESPN quietly concedes inaccuracies, selective editing, in last week's Ray Rice report.

One of the more glaring problems with ESPN’s story regarding the Ravens’ mishandling of theRay Rice investigation relates to the text messages sent by owner Steve Bisciotti to Rice after the team cut him.

In the story, ESPN presents the text messages in italics. While quotes weren’t used, the technique created the clear impression that the text messages were being quoted verbatim. The surrounding context reinforced the idea that exact quotes were being shared.

The first, from the ESPN report: “Hey Ray, just want to let you know, we loved you as a player, it was great having you here. Hopefully all these things are going to die down. I wish the best for you and Janay.

The second: “When you’re done with football, I’d like you to know you have a job waiting for you with the Ravens helping young guys getting acclimated to the league.”

As it turns out, the text messages weren’t quoted verbatim. The statement released Monday by the team included the exact language of the text messages.

The first: “I’m sorry we had to do this. I still love you and believe that you will be a great husband and father If you ever need to talk just call.”

The second: “I just spent two hours talking to Ozzie. It was all about you. We love you and we will always figure out a way to keep you in our lives. When you are done with football I will hire you to help me raise Great young men. I still love you!!!”

ESPN’s story also creates the impression that Bisciotti texted Rice without prompting. According to the Ravens, Rice contacted Bisciotti first, saying: “I understand the decision but I am thankful for what you have done for me and my family. Me and my wife will continue to work on us and being better but I just wanted to say thank you for giving me a chance.”

ESPN has acknowledged that the italicized text messages did not reflect actual quotes.

“We understand the confusion surrounding our use of italics and recognize we could have been more clear,” ESPN said Tuesday in a statement. “Most importantly, the information in our story about the contents of the texts was consistent with what the team released.”

While the contents were consistent, the clear and obvious error in the presentation invites fair questions regarding whether other aspects of the story are incorrect, especially in light of the strong (albeit belated) written response the Ravens provided to 15 different aspects of the report.

This specific flaw also carries with it some irony. At a time when the Ravens fairly have been hammered for failing to ask for the notorious elevator video, ESPN didn’t ask the Ravens to confirm the precise contents of the text messages sent by Bisciotti. Instead, ESPN asked only if Bisciotti sent two text messages to Rice.

The story from ESPN doesn’t disclose that ESPN asked the Ravens only to confirm that Bisciotti sent two text messages and not to confirm the contents of the text messages. But the words selected by the authors invite a perception that the Ravens were informed of the alleged language of the text messages: “Asked about the text messages Friday, the team did not deny Bisciotti had sent them: ‘His text messages to Ray reflect his belief that everyone is capable of redemption and that others, including players, can learn from Ray’s experience.'”

Moving forward, it’s up to the reader to decide whether to overlook ESPN’s mishandling of the text messages, or whether to treat this specific wrinkle as the proverbial bite of bad beef in a pot of stew. Do you keep on eating, or do you throw out the whole thing?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/23/espn-addresses-text-message-mishap-in-ravens-story/






I really wish we had an alternative to ESPN
 
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Simmons only said basically what the OTL report said, that Goodell is a liar

Not to mention: OTL is there specifically to do research and spew facts.

They don't pay Simmons to do that, they pay Simmons to state his opinion.

Personally, I don't like Simmons. Simmons is well aware of the lines not to cross; this isn't his first rodeo with breaking conduct rules at ESPN.

ESPN pays him well to give his opinion, yes, but not in any capacity he feels like. Bill Simmons doesn't have to stay at ESPN if he doesn't want to. He can go the Chris Sheridan route and say whatever he pleases in that environment. As long as he's cashing fat ESPN checks, though, he's got to control his emotions and be professional to the standards ESPN expects.
 
Personally, I don't like Simmons. Simmons is well aware of the lines not to cross; this isn't his first rodeo with breaking conduct rules at ESPN.

ESPN pays him well to give his opinion, yes, but not in any capacity he feels like. Bill Simmons doesn't have to stay at ESPN if he doesn't want to. He can go the Chris Sheridan route and say whatever he pleases in that environment. As long as he's cashing fat ESPN checks, though, he's got to control his emotions and be professional to the standards ESPN expects.

Yes, he is well aware of the lines to cross, and I firmly believe he knew he'd be suspended. I don't think he said 1 of his words without knowing he'd be suspended & that it'd probably be for so long, it'd make the NFL's initial suspension of Rice look even more ridiculous.

He definitely knew what he was doing.

For the record, I don't like Simmons either, but I don't fault or blame him for this 1 bit
 
Yeeaahhhh.....calling out your bosses and daring them to do something is asking for a suspension.

He got what he wanted, and I don't really have any problems with this on either side.

Ray Rice's two-game suspension was ridiculous enough on it's own. Simmons being suspended for three doesn't affect that perception.
 
Honestly I don't think the suspension even means anything to Simmons. It's become a regular thing by this point. I'm pretty sure ESPN has suspended him a couple weeks every year for comments that are "out of line" with company policy.
 
I still love that Simmons admitted Skip Bayless didn't believe any of the bullshit he always says on First Take. What a god awful show, how is it still on the air?

The same reason we keep b00bie around... somebody who is constantly playing Devil's Advocate but doing it well gets discussion moving.
 
The same reason we keep b00bie around... somebody who is constantly playing Devil's Advocate but doing it well gets discussion moving.

I think you may be in the minority here.
 

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