Finals Game 4: Warriors @ Cavs, Friday, June 9, 2017, 9:00 PM EST

[Snarly]

Need some x and o's discussion about this game and the one before it. What happened? Did we figure something out?

No Curry pissed off LeBron, that lit the fire that might give us a series.

 

[BigJ]

Need some x and o's discussion about this game and the one before it. What happened? Did we figure something out?

We did not really figure something out.. we just.. FINALLY Played as hard as we can and played the "Bully" ball that won us last years Finals. In turn their defense collapsed and that led to alot of drive and Kick.

Oh and the law of averages kicked in in terms of our 3pt Shooting. We where shooting 43% before the Finals.. We where bound to get hot.

 

[Snarly]

We did not really figure something out.. we just.. FINALLY Played as hard as we can and played the "Bully" ball that won us last years Finals. In turn their defense collapsed and that led to alot of drive and Kick.

Oh and the law of averages kicked in in terms of our 3pt Shooting. We where shooting 43fr% before the Finals.. We where bound to get hot.

If the Cavs can keep this up and D Will and Korver can give anything we have a shot at this. The biggest key needs to be JR though and if we get this JR from here on out the GS Douches might have something to fear.

 

[BigJ]

If the Cavs can keep this up and D Will and Korver can give anything we have a shot at this. The biggest key needs to be JR though and if we get this JR from here on out the GS Douches might have something to fear.

Yep. I think especially Korver will have a Mike Miller 8 Threes Game at some Point over the next 3 Games.

And you are right about JR. Him finding his shot and especially his confidence has revitalized his defense too.

If Lebron outplays KD
If Kyrie outplays Curry
If Love outplays Green
And hell if JR outplays Klay.

They are fucked. Nothing they can do.

 

[stick]

Just finished watching.

Great, great game. Rev up those engines, it's time to make history again.

 

[Snarly]

LeBron and his classic line "I strive when everybody count me out" Lets make this a series if nothing else to prove what this team is made of.

 

[Andrew]

Woooooo! (channels Flair) That was just a gutsy balls-to-the-wall effort and I loved it. This team came out aggressive from the tip and even won the tip finally and it was so pleasing to the eyes. Setting records offensively, LBJ in attack mode from start to finish (another triple-double), Irving with a masterful 40, Smith with 15. Also nice contributions, aside from the offensive standpoint, from TT with 10 boards and RJ was scrambling and defending/hustling. Just a solid team effort and obviously this is just 1 win but this is the team I wanted to see from the start. I just hope Korver gets it going in game 5. This is something they can build upon and hopefully they play as aggressive moving forward.

Onto the Warriors/officiating side of things....

After Durant's 35, GS's leading scorer was Green with 16. With the amount of jawing that team does, even though its just 1 game, they need to back that shit up and they wilted under pressure. I love to see them struggle and frustrated and aside from the way the Cavs played the most pleasure I took from this was GS's struggles and attitude.

Now let's talk about the officiating. I am usually not one to think the referees dictate the tone but they did and tonight they showed CLEAR bias. JVG made the point that someone is lying when it comes to the technical debacle with Green. That first T was on Green and it was clear, that showed bias and the league needs to remove that ref from any more games this series and make him take a break into next season. Plus, how the fuck do you review a "flagrant" because KD cried and not review the Green on Shump incident? Kevin was going for the ball, Green deliberately hit Shump in the fucking head! Plus to not even review the Zaza thing is pure horse shit. He fucking punched Shump's groin. If the league doesn't do something and assess him a flagrant two this is sickening.

With the amount of positivity I take from this team effort I fucking hate we let game 3 slip away, this shit could be 2-2 now. But this is what it is, go out and force a game 6.

 

[Snarly]

Woooooo! (channels Flair) That was just a gutsy balls-to-the-wall effort and I loved it. This team came out aggressive from the tip and even won the tip finally and it was so pleasing to the eyes. Setting records offensively, LBJ in attack mode from start to finish (another triple-double), Irving with a masterful 40, Smith with 15. Also nice contributions, aside from the offensive standpoint, from TT with 10 boards and RJ was scrambling and defending/hustling. Just a solid team effort and obviously this is just 1 win but this is the team I wanted to see from the start. I just hope Korver gets it going in game 5. This is something they can build upon and hopefully they play as aggressive moving forward.

Onto the Warriors/officiating side of things....

After Durant's 35, GS's leading scorer was Green with 16. With the amount of jawing that team does, even though its just 1 game, they need to back that shit up and they wilted under pressure. I love to see them struggle and frustrated and aside from the way the Cavs played the most pleasure I took from this was GS's struggles and attitude.

Now let's talk about the officiating. I am usually not one to think the referees dictate the tone but they did and tonight they showed CLEAR bias. JVG made the point that someone is lying when it comes to the technical debacle with Green. That first T was on Green and it was clear, that showed bias and the league needs to remove that ref from any more games this series and make him take a break into next season. Plus, how the fuck do you review a "flagrant" because KD cried and not review the Green on Shump incident? Kevin was going for the ball, Green deliberately hit Shump in the fucking head! Plus to not even review the Zaza thing is pure horse shit. He fucking punched Shump's groin. If the league doesn't do something and assess him a flagrant two this is sickening.

With the amount of positivity I take from this team effort I fucking hate we let game 3 slip away, this shit could be 2-2 now. But this is what it is, go out and force a game 6.

The thing I miss is when they show up the refs and the NBA as why LeBron and his team are going not let it die. At this point I think LeBron knows the refs are crooked so he tries to out smart them and when he finds ways he and team can play. The Refs tried so hard until LeBron broke them and they like the pussy GS Warriors tried to make everything look right. Guess what now many eyes are on them yet the idiots fans are not so... Whatever the case I love watching refs squirm to explain lies... the time is close. Nice try Silver LeBron is more a man than your shitty bald head. Silver had this panned all along... Fucker hated giving out the Ship to us last year.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

All right, Ladies and Gents - Kilgore had reviewed the tape for Game 4, and he has this to say: that was some sick, crooked shit. The league has something to answer to answer for.

How you change a technical foul assignment mid-game, I will never know. How you don't call a flagrant on a guy who got clocked in the head, I will never know. How you call a double-technical when a guy gets punched and kneed in the nuts, I will never know. Yeah - Kilgore saw it with his own eyes: the fix is in, and it does NOT favor the Cavs.

That really is a terrible look for the league. And I'll never get why the refs are trying to help a team that hasn't lost more than 15 games since the Carter administration. Fuck them.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

Need some x and o's discussion about this game and the one before it. What happened? Did we figure something out?

I think we figured out how to hit a corner three. So many that it was impossible to choke the game away in crunch-time.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

van Gundy made the point that, considering that the league has let Draymond get away with throwing up his arms after EVERY SINGLE FOUL ALL YEAR LONG, how could they give him a technical for that last night?

The problem has been the fact that they let that shit go all year long.

The fact that somebody realized that that was Draymond's second tech and took a previous one away is unfathomable.

The fact that Love got assessed a flagrant for an unintentional hit to the head after Durant whined, but Green and Pachulia did NOT get techs after deliberate attempts to injure is just a complete failure on the part of the refs.

It's just not a legitimate basketball game if the team with the overwhelming advantage in talent, is also getting help from the refs. It's just stupid.

 

[Robin]

 

[KilgoreTrout]

I call Bull-shit.

The reason they didn't say anything to the table is because it was obvious that the tech was on on the guy who delivered the head-shot and then acted like he did nothing.

 

[Surge]

I just want two simple questions answered:

1.) Love gets a flagrant for hitting Durants head, only after Durant told them to look at it. I don't think they would have even looked at it if not for his bitching. How did Draymond Green not get a flagrant for the total non-basketball headshot to Shump on the jump ball?

2.) How did Zaza not get a flagrant 2 and ejected for punching Shumps nuts?

 

[bob2the2nd]

Bull fucking shit. They came up with an excuse not to kick out green when they remembered they had aready given him an technical