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Browns LB Joe Schobert seizing new opportunities at new position

"Joe the Show" has a new twist on his nickname entering his second NFL season.

"I call him showtime," veteran linebacker Christian Kirksey said, "because he's always out there making plays."

Joe Schobert made plenty of plays during his rookie season, but they were mostly relegated to special teams. An outside linebacker in last year's defensive scheme, Schobert played a steady amount during the first half of the season but saw his playing time diminish after the team acquired Pro Bowl linebacker Jamie Collins Sr. in a mid-season trade.

Poised to remain a fixture on special teams in 2017, Schobert is competing for legitimate playing time with veteran Tank Carder at the Mike spot in Cleveland's revamped, 4-3. He's listed as a second-team player entering Thursday's preseason opener but the competition is far from over.

The number of plays he's consistently making have been hard to ignore.

"I get a chance to run around a lot more this year and make some checks," Schobert said. "I get to call the defense so a little more responsibility. It has been good."


Linebackers coach Blake Williams did his homework on Schobert shortly after he arrived in Cleveland earlier this year.

He quickly learned Schobert was Mr. Everything at West High School in Waukesha, Wisconsin. That included basketball and track, sports that showcased the unique athleticism he continues to display, whether it's on the football field or a viral video of him putting a basketball between his legs in the air before dunking.

It's that kind of athleticism Williams, after reviewing Schobert's college tape and rookie year, viewed as unfulfilled at a position such as 3-4 outside linebacker. Schobert's offseason program, which focused on reducing overall weight while increasing strength, made it even more of a no-brainer to shift him to the middle.

"Compared to what I was doing last year, it would be more like I am a D-End this year in this defense," Schobert said. "I'm definitely glad to be off the ball and behind the line to be able to run the plays down rather than taking on (OL) Shon Coleman in the run game every day."

It's a starting position that won't be handed to him.

Carder, one of the longest tenured Browns, has been waiting years for an opportunity like the one he's embraced at this year's training camp. He's been praised throughout the offseason program and into training camp and has kept a steady hand on the field alongside Kirksey and Jamie Collins.

All Schobert can do is keep making plays and keep soaking up the veteran knowledge Carder is providing.

"Playing behind Tank, he gets to learn from a veteran, a guy who's been here six years, a guy who has been with the coaching changes, wins, losses. He has a great vet to learn from," Kirksey said. "He's keeping quiet, staying in the classroom, learning. He's a very intelligent guy."
 
People keep forgetting one thing, the LBs from Wisconsin all seem to be able to play football and do things the right way. This was the guy who replaced Borland and the defense never missed a beat. With the lack of depth in the secondary this season we may end up doing more 4-3 than a typical Greg Williams year, but at the same time I think Schobert will show up in games and really have a very good season for us.
 
Can we stop with the narrative against Joe Schobert that he's mopping guys up 15 yards downfield? I hear it in this forum and on the radio... The workload was voluminous and he was effective throughout.

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Can we stop with the narrative against Joe Schobert that he's mopping guys up 15 yards downfield? I hear it in this forum and on the radio... The workload was voluminous and he was effective throughout.

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Was there a narrative about this guy at all? This thread goes 6 months between posts.

It’s like saying there’s a narrative against dish soap.
 
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We need linebackers because we have zero depth there. We played 2 linebackers for basically every defensive snap, and a 3rd got hurt or he would have too.

We need atleast 2 linebackers if not 3 that are at least average NFL linebackers. We need to draft at least one and add at least one in free agency.

That said, Schobert was excellent this year and not the reason we lost 16 games. The fact he couldnt rest did partly contribute to the loosing. We need him on the field 80% of the snaps but 100% fresh for those snaps.

But this also proves the team has some tallent and should have won a few games, no way we should have been coached to 0-16.
 
Was there a narrative about this guy at all? This thread goes 6 months between posts.

It’s like saying there’s a narrative against dish soap.

There's been more than a few people praising both Collins and Kirksey while saying Schobert is a solid back-up. Schobert has been better than both in 2017. There's been numerous times where his stats have been attributed to "making tackles 10-15 yards downfield", which that very chart disproves.

Not all of that content is in this thread, but if I want someone to pay attention to something I've got to say about Schobert, it's better to be in here than in the NYSE trading floor that is the 2018 prospects thread.
 
Was there a narrative about this guy at all? This thread goes 6 months between posts.

It’s like saying there’s a narrative against dish soap.
Hopefully the dish soap is used more than every 6 months.
 
The Browns linebackers should want a staff shakeup on the defensive side of the ball.

Gregg constantly had these guys lining out of position before the snap.
 
The Browns linebackers should want a staff shakeup on the defensive side of the ball.

Gregg constantly had these guys lining out of position before the snap.

Say what?

 
Aren’t we saying the same thing?

Yes, but NOT the same thing as Gregg Williams.

Because playing your Mike six yards off the ball from the 2 is....

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The sad thing is that Bulluck played under Gregg his rookie year.
 

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