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Josh Gordon discussion

Discussion in 'Browns Talk' started by UncleDrew, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Matches

    Matches Eloquently sarcastic

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  2. David.

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    Triple-S "stay tuned for the greatest spectacle in racing"

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    re: 4 Game suspension.

    This is really my criticism of that rule as a whole. Much like the "War on Drugs" in real life it doesn't really solve the problem per say, but just seems to leave guys like Josh left out to dry.

    If one is non-violent, and the option is presented? Rehab and a support system should be made available.

    While we are all responsible for own actions? Goddell and gang really dropped the ball on Josh.
     
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    that was my first guess.
     
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    Los216 NBA Starter

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    Yes.
     
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    CommD In the Rotation

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    Dude's going to have to agree to the 24/7 babysitter, paid by the team. Chicks get searched before the door is closed.
     
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    How could anyone watch that video and come away thinking Gordon has changed

    He literally admitted to doing rehab the first time as a publicity stunt. @bigfoot5415 posted 3 videos of him saying the same scripted shit.

    Same guy he always was. And I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for him
     
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    bigfoot5415 Gold Star Member

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    Without a doubt.
     
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    You're missing the fact that the enablers were the people who allowed and even taught him to cheat. From what I could see Gordon's college teams actually showed him how to cheat. The Browns allowed him to give rehab lip service and treat it like a cover story for the media. Then they allowed him to get on a plane full of Browns players drinking while he was liable to be suspended for drinking. Every bit of that is on Gordon himself, but it is also on the teams he was playing for. They ALL were giving lip service to all the rehab stuff.

    So, your solution is to just never give people recovering any kind of chance to re-enter their field? How is that any kind of solution for anyone? How about they reinstate him with some legitimate checks and balances on his activities?

    The bottom line is, addicts try to recover, take the steps, complete the program, or whatever. Then they go out and try to live life, resume their career. For Gordon that means playing football.

    If he gets another chance and fails again, that's on him and not on the people who allowed him to return. That was even the case when he had Baylor coaches showing him how to cheat the tests, Gordon still went along with it. But those experiences convinced him all the drug restrictions were bullshit and part of a game being played. Those lessons died hard with Gordon, and all anyone can hope is those ideas are finally truly a thing of the past with him. He needs to hold that belief strongly enough that it helps him get through his next bout with temptation because those will always be there.
     
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  10. The Human Q-Tip

    The Human Q-Tip War is Hell

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    1) No, my solution has nothing to do with "people" in general. It has to do with this particular guy, blowing the large number of prior chances that he had, and now (presumably) claiming that he is clean when he literally just got out of rehab.

    2) And "never give...any kind of chance"? Gordon was given multiple chances, and blew every one of them. The league requires multiple chances be given. That's the enabling -- multiple opportunities of giving him the benefits of playing without him first proving or demonstrating that he actually has his addiction under control. That's my point. He has done nothing, as of yet, to demonstrate that he has this under control.

    What has Gordon actually done to demonstrate that this time is any different than all the rest? Give a "heartfelt" interview for a documentary? That proves nothing. He's repeatedly gone into rehab, and repeatedly screwed up afterwards.

    What gets me about this is we're talking about reinstating a 4+ time loser when he's barely out of rehab. How about requiring him to be clean for at least six months or so first?
     
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    The Human Q-Tip War is Hell

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