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Big win for the spurs and lol @the raptors, but on a side note i dont see why it would have been such a bad idea for spurs to trade him to lakers, i mean he like 90% likely to be going there next year, why not tr add e him there and steal a bunch of their young assets and picks this year?
The only way Toronto wins the deal is if Leonard stays in Toronto,,but I don't see that happening. 1 year rental..Toronto got screwed here.
 
The only way Toronto wins the deal is if Leonard stays in Toronto,,but I don't see that happening. 1 year rental..Toronto got screwed here.

Seems like a hedge blowup to me.

They get off of one of their huge contracts and have a year to woo Kawhi.

If it doesn't work they gut the team and try to force Lowry in to a buyout.

I'm more surprised the pick was included with Jakob in the trade. That's a nice haul for the Spurs in a situation like this, where a star publicly airs a franchise out to dry.
 
I see the Baby Dinosaurs trading him by mid season. No need to keep him if he plans on bolting. If the Lakers show any sign of being competitive, get as much as you can from them or whoever. He only has to stay for 60 days then they can trade him.
Someone will overpay if Kawhi shows anything.
 
Really sucks ass for DeRozan. This move is going to send a message to many players: "Don't get comfortable, don't be loyal".
This was a guy who rode for Toronto, made it his home. The wearing the Blue Jays jersey on social media wasn't political fluff. He legit loved Toronto.
Raptors Boozered him.

It also basically says: "if you're not one of the premier franchises by name, you're screwed". which is basically NBA law anyway, but we've had outliers (Cleveland being one of them for one glorious summer).

Hope the Spurs can turn him around. I was super-down on Aldridge before he was traded there and now he looks amazing in comparison. This is like the Kyrie trade but the Raptors really got screwed in it. They don't have a Sexton/Zizic anywhere in this situation. Can't see this going out like OKC.

As for Kawhi... if he sits out like he's threatened to do? Holy SHIT. Even if he gets shoved over to LA like he wants, this dude is not going to be getting the level of slurp afforded The Snake God and LeBron for his "decision"...
 
Really sucks ass for DeRozan. This move is going to send a message to many players: "Don't get comfortable, don't be loyal".
This was a guy who rode for Toronto, made it his home. The wearing the Blue Jays jersey on social media wasn't political fluff. He legit loved Toronto.
Raptors Boozered him.

It also basically says: "if you're not one of the premier franchises by name, you're screwed". which is basically NBA law anyway, but we've had outliers (Cleveland being one of them for one glorious summer).

Hope the Spurs can turn him around. I was super-down on Aldridge before he was traded there and now he looks amazing in comparison. This is like the Kyrie trade but the Raptors really got screwed in it. They don't have a Sexton/Zizic anywhere in this situation. Can't see this going out like OKC.

As for Kawhi... if he sits out like he's threatened to do? Holy SHIT. Even if he gets shoved over to LA like he wants, this dude is not going to be getting the level of slurp afforded The Snake God and LeBron for his "decision"...

He's a failure. He let that whole city down in the playoffs last year. He folded like toilet paper. JR smith took him out of his superstar game. That is pathetic. He should call up Hood and help him understand what happens to guys who underperform.
 
This move is going to send a message to many players: "Don't get comfortable, don't be loyal".

If you're in the era of fluid player movement, who really cares about loyalty?

If guys are going to leave regardless, then treat them as assets not as partners.

Most markets like Toronto and Cleveland are screwed anyway....so why not just go for broke when the time is right?
 
If THIS is what it takes to hammer home the "this is a business" aspect, then the player who has that epiphany is an idiot.

Everyone knew it was a business before this happened.
 
If any star player thinks he won't be traded for the one of the 5 best guys in the league, he is trippin. He should be flattered that pop thinks so much of him.
 
If you're in the era of fluid player movement, who really cares about loyalty?

If guys are going to leave regardless, then treat them as assets not as partners.

Most markets like Toronto and Cleveland are screwed anyway....so why not just go for broke when the time is right?

Toronto was doing shit with Demar anyhow. Reminds me of teams like the hawks that capped out with Al Horford a few years ago, and the Joe Johnson's teams before that. Who knows Toronto may at least get to the Eastern Conference Finals now, and if Leonard throws a fit you could trade him at the deadline to the Clippers or Lakers.

Demar quit whining like some baby. You're not a franchise player, but got a max contract, so it's time to know your place in the NBA, and move on. Pretty damn hilarious NBA players saying this guy deserves a statue. For What???
 
I don't understand this guy, he played for one of the most winningest franchises in NBA history and had a chance to get a supermax contract, what more do you want? the nba should just make California into its own league if everyone is gonna pile up there. Silver should step in if he doesn't honor his contract and play for Toronto.
 
I don't understand this guy, he played for one of the most winningest franchises in NBA history and had a chance to get a supermax contract, what more do you want? the nba should just make California into its own league if everyone is gonna pile up there. Silver should step in if he doesn't honor his contract and play for Toronto.

Yeah. The places these players go are mad corny, and if they pull stunts like this while all the other teams have to make do, there has to be some action. Kawhi created this scenario himself, and IMO should be getting nearly as much scorn as the Raptors org should now.

and honestly if I were a Laker fan, what Kawhi has pulled ever since the injury and is rumored to do after the trade, I wouldn't want him on the team. This is the thing Kyrie got pilloried for, right?

The more time passes, the better I feel about Paul George opting to stay in OKC, bucking all of the speculation that he was just destined to become a Laker.
 
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I can't really blame Toronto - the team they had simply was not going to get it done. And if you're a max guy on a team that just got swept in the conference semi-final...you shouldn't feel too safe.

I just don't want Toronto to trade Kawhi to the Lakers at the deadline to hand them a late-season run. Force that team of misfits to make their run as currently constructed.
 
I can't really blame Toronto - the team they had simply was not going to get it done. And if you're a max guy on a team that just got swept in the conference semi-final...you shouldn't feel too safe.

I just don't want Toronto to trade Kawhi to the Lakers at the deadline to hand them a late-season run. Force that team of misfits to make their run as currently constructed.

misfits indeed, now they just added Beasley. Beasley, Rondo, Stephenson, Lonzo and LaVar, Kobe lurking,
Lebron's normal passive aggressive drama..... what could go wrong
 
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Seems like Colengelo finally got to him and Ujiri was done evaluating :)

The trade is meh for both, an optimist might call it a win-win but it's a wash.

Spurs are now stuck with DeRozen/Mills/Gasol and didn't acquire OG or Siakam. Their anti-modern line-up of DeRozen/Gay/Aldridge should be fun to watch LMAO

Toronto obviously wins hands down if Kawhi re-ups for 4-5 years but he's allegedly working on calling guys around the league to gauge their interest in playing with him in Brooklyn since they will have 2-3 max slots next summer.

Kawhi's camp appears to be looking the other way since LeBron signed with the Lakers. Again, it's wild that nobody wants to play with the best player in the world. LeBron keeps talking about trying to fall back in hopes of attracting guys like PG and Kawhi but nobody's buying it and not many stars want to deal with the circus of being blamed for coming up short in the playoffs.

Speaking of PG, people keep comparing his situation to Kawhi in hopes of him re-signing in Toronto. PG had a top 6-7 player to play with coming off an MVP campaign and got what he wanted (Jersey sales, Top 5 signature shoes, Christmas games). When OKC loses Westbrook will get trashed so there is an added bonus (Imagine if PG scored 5 points on 2/16 shooting as the 2nd option in a game 6 with LeBron in Cleveland or LA...).

Kawhi doesn't want to market himself, doesn't have a signature shoe and absolutely nobody knows what the hell he wants in terms of his basketball future. Does he fraternize with anybody (making calls?), does he want to be the first option in a big market? Is his uncle focused purely on building a brand and helping his family come up the way LeBron did for his friends? Nobody knows what Kawhi wants or desires. It's a wild gamble

Like Human Q-Tip said, it would be interesting if Toronto flipped him for Ingram or Kuzma during the trade deadline.


If THIS is what it takes to hammer home the "this is a business" aspect, then the player who has that epiphany is an idiot.

Everyone knew it was a business before this happened.

To be fair, this is the players answer to how fans interpret FA decisions or players requesting trades. Most know it's a business (some did take a fan perspective and criticized the Raptors for not showing loyalty) but they're trying to re-affirm that players shouldn't be ridiculed for making a business or career decision. It's a played out response (for every Melo, PG, and Kawhi that get traded on their request there are Chandlers/Gallinari's, Tobias Harris, and DeRozen who have to deal with being on the other end) but perhaps it's how they process it as a defense mechanism. Maybe it means more when they see an upper echelon guy like DeRozen or Griffin getting traded against their own will as opposed to role players.
 

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