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Nurkic has more value than Kevin Love.Let's explore this..
Meyers Leonard is a 7'1" knock down 3-point shooter. Went off for 25 points in the first half of game 4 WCF. He doesn't play much defense however, and only has a year left on his deal- $11.3 mil. It would be nice to replace the shooting of Love and Frye with him.
Jusuf Nurkic is the guy I want the most: 24-years-old, great defender, and a terrific passer. He's awesome in the pick and roll, and would look good on the court with Garland and Sexton. He has long-term starter potential, sort of a similar mold to Steven Adams. He has 3 years left on his deal around $13 mil. Might not be a great fit in Beilein's system since he doesn't have much range on his jumper, especially with our current crop of bigmen, but he's be the best player we could get back for Love from POR. He sustained compound fractures to his left tibia and fibula in March, and I'm not sure what the timetable for his return is. It's something to think about, considering he is a massive human, and lower body injuries to 7-footers aren't good.
Zach Collins showed decent upside, but I prefer either of the other two bigs in a return for Love. His game just doesn't excite me much. Perhaps this is the guy we'd target though, who knows.
I'd want Nurk and Leonard both, but we'd have to clear some roster spots to do it. Nurk evaporates Thompson's value, and Leonard would eat up a lot of the remaining minutes for Nance, Zizic, and Henson.
The bigger the trade with Portland, the more it might make sense from a roster-shaping perspective. But generally trades with a lot of moving parts fall apart. Anyway, here's an example of the framework:
CLE out: Kevin Love, Jordan Clarkson, Ante Zizic
POR out: Jusuf Nurkic, Meyers Leonard, Mo Harkless, Anfernee Simons, future 1st
Something tells me Portland would reject this, even without the draft pick. I don't think Love is the answer for them, and I know they're high on Nurk. But there is pressure for them to add a legit third star, and maybe they take a chance. If I'm the Cavs, I'm not even sure I'd do this trade. But show me a different framework with POR that makes sense.
Never going to happen. Nurkic broke his leg and is highly regarded by Blazers.Let's explore this..
Meyers Leonard is a 7'1" knock down 3-point shooter. Went off for 25 points in the first half of game 4 WCF. He doesn't play much defense however, and only has a year left on his deal- $11.3 mil. It would be nice to replace the shooting of Love and Frye with him.
Jusuf Nurkic is the guy I want the most: 24-years-old, great defender, and a terrific passer. He's awesome in the pick and roll, and would look good on the court with Garland and Sexton. He has long-term starter potential, sort of a similar mold to Steven Adams. He has 3 years left on his deal around $13 mil. Might not be a great fit in Beilein's system since he doesn't have much range on his jumper, especially with our current crop of bigmen, but he's be the best player we could get back for Love from POR. He sustained compound fractures to his left tibia and fibula in March, and I'm not sure what the timetable for his return is. It's something to think about, considering he is a massive human, and lower body injuries to 7-footers aren't good.
Zach Collins showed decent upside, but I prefer either of the other two bigs in a return for Love. His game just doesn't excite me much. Perhaps this is the guy we'd target though, who knows.
I'd want Nurk and Leonard both, but we'd have to clear some roster spots to do it. Nurk evaporates Thompson's value, and Leonard would eat up a lot of the remaining minutes for Nance, Zizic, and Henson.
The bigger the trade with Portland, the more it might make sense from a roster-shaping perspective. But generally trades with a lot of moving parts fall apart. Anyway, here's an example of the framework:
CLE out: Kevin Love, Jordan Clarkson, Ante Zizic
POR out: Jusuf Nurkic, Meyers Leonard, Mo Harkless, Anfernee Simons, future 1st
Something tells me Portland would reject this, even without the draft pick. I don't think Love is the answer for them, and I know they're high on Nurk. But there is pressure for them to add a legit third star, and maybe they take a chance. If I'm the Cavs, I'm not even sure I'd do this trade. But show me a different framework with POR that makes sense.
It is true. Nurkic has established himself as one of the best young 5's in the NBA--a fringe All-Star already at 24.If that's true, I don't think there's any chance we can make a deal with Portland.
If that's true, I don't think there's any chance we can make a deal with Portland.
Collins can block shots, run the floor like a guard, and step out and knock down the three. He’s young—bigs develop slower than guards, they always have due to the required physicality.If you guys are gonna crush my Nurkic dream like that, at least tell me there's hope for a Steven Adams trade?
I don't see Zach Collins as a building block, more as a fine fourth big. Plus, draft picks from Portland aren't all that exciting. I see a lot of "four quarters for a dollar" scenarios with Portland.
Somebody want to make the case for Collins? I haven't seen a ton of him, just some foggy memories of a couple playoff games and a quick peak at his numbers.
If you guys are gonna crush my Nurkic dream like that, at least tell me there's hope for a Steven Adams trade?
I don't see Zach Collins as a building block, more as a fine fourth big. Plus, draft picks from Portland aren't all that exciting. I see a lot of "four quarters for a dollar" scenarios with Portland.
Somebody want to make the case for Collins? I haven't seen a ton of him, just some foggy memories of a couple playoff games and a quick peak at his numbers.
Those are two interesting young players, but Portland would have to send some contracts, like Harkless & Leonard, back our way to make the deal work under the cap.I would be interested in a package surrounded around Nassir Little and Gary Trent Jr for Love.
That Pelicans roster, aside from Jrue Holiday, is super young now. I tend to doubt that David Griffin would be willing to take on a soon to be 31-year-old power forward, who is making $30 million per year for the next 4 years. Now when he knows that Ingram and Ball will be eligible for contract extensions soon.I keep going back to New Orleans as a potential landing spot for KLove.
There were rumors that we discussed it on draft day, but Griff turned his focus to the Atlanta deal for the #4 pick.
I've heard Beilein say a few times already that his system has 2 guards, 2 forwards and a "big" center, which could be Jaxson Hayes who we were rumored to be interested in if we traded down.
They could also provide the cap relief allowing us to deal JR for another asset.
He isn’t worth Kevin love. My in laws live in Portland, and I told my brother in law about the posts yesterday of “collins, a bad contract, and a first” for Love. He laughed and ask where he can sign up and that it was ridiculous to ask for so little in return.Right on..
I won't claim to be an expert on Zach Collins, so if you guys think he's worth it in a Kevin Love deal, that's comforting to know. Makes me like Los216's proposal a little more.
I wanted that imaginary deal with NOLA for the 4th pick badly. Ahh, oh well.