Koby Altman

[inliner311]

There's a rumor that the Cavs will be chasing Middleton in FA and I'm just trying to understand why.

A team of Sexton-Middleton-2019 Draft pick-Love-Nance is a fringe playoff team in the East and a non-title contending playoff team in 2020 with Love being older and more than likely needing to be replaced.

What's the goal here? Middleton is great, but I'm not sure year 2 of a rebuild is when you jump on a guy like that.

I won't complain if he's here, since Middleton has been a great second option his whole career and would be interesting pair with Zion if that's how things shake out. Maybe they structure his deal to pay him the max until the young guys need extensions.

My guess is they see Middleton as a guy that could be a star if he got out of the shadow of Giannis. I'm not sure the Bucks will want to give Middleton a max contract which might also be why they will target him.

 

[DirtyDan]

My guess is they see Middleton as a guy that could be a star if he got out of the shadow of Giannis. I'm not sure the Bucks will want to give Middleton a max contract which might also be why they will target him.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a Sexton-Middleton backcourt. There's certainly worse players to give a max contract to than Middleton. I just worry that neither Sexton nor Middleton will be number 1 options on there own, but like you said it's possible Koby sees Middleton differently.

They would be really banking on getting a superstar in this draft which is a helluva gamble in what would be a second year of a rebuild. Or waiting until a superstar comes available in a trade/FA where there would still be some uncertainty in that route too.

 

[inliner311]

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a Sexton-Middleton backcourt. There's certainly worse players to give a max contract to than Middleton. I just worry that neither Sexton nor Middleton will be number 1 options on there own, but like you said it's possible Koby sees Middleton differently.

They would be really banking on getting a superstar in this draft which is a helluva gamble in what would be a second year of a rebuild. Or waiting until a superstar comes available in a trade/FA where there would still be some uncertainty in that route too.

If we got Middleton on a 3 year plus a team option for a 4th year max contract, I don't see it hurting the team long term if he doesn't become a star. It's a role of the dice but Middleton's current play gives us a very good player still. There will be bad contracts given out this off-season. If Middleton doesn't work out, someone will give us an asset to get a player of Middleton's caliber to move off of a bad contract.

 

[DirtyDan]

If we got Middleton on a 3 year plus a team option for a 4th year max contract, I don't see it hurting the team long term if he doesn't become a star. It's a role of the dice but Middleton's current play gives us a very good player still. There will be bad contracts given out this off-season. If Middleton doesn't work out, someone will give us an asset to get a player of Middleton's caliber to move off of a bad contract.

You're right, I'm more concerned about the opportunity cost of competing next year instead of tanking one more year. There's other avenues of getting a superstar than tanking, but I'm not sure how viable they would be.

Middleton, Sexton, and Love seem like they would be great complimentary pieces to a dominate wing. If only Lebron stayed lmao

 

[inliner311]

You're right, I'm more concerned about the opportunity cost of competing next year instead of tanking one more year. There's other avenues of getting a superstar than tanking, but I'm not sure how viable they would be.

Middleton, Sexton, and Love seem like they would be great complimentary pieces to a dominate wing. If only Lebron stayed lmao

Maybe a player like Middleton is part of a bigger plan to compete next year. If they are able to move off some of the vets, they might have assets to go after a star in trade also.

 

[Joe Henderson]

You sly dog, you

 

[Nphan]

What a trade wow. Great job.

 

[inliner311]

Time for Koby to work some magic and send JR to Houston.

 

[inliner311]

View: https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1071179109739319296

 

[jdmay21]

I think this was a great trade, especially with Cavs punting on free agency until at least 2020. I like the flexibility we get by trading 1 player who makes 19 million for 2 players that make around 10 million each. Think of the scenarios regarding Delly & Henson:

Trade both of the guys to another team this year or next year.
Trade one them this year and one next year.
Trade one and keep one.
Keep both (hopefully on team friendly deals once their current contracts are up after 2019-2020 season).

Main point being, we could possibly get assets from 2 different teams depending on how things play out. Plus this deal shouldn't interfere with our Tank this year or next.

 

[Taiter]

The Irving trade was always a lottery gamble that bit them when the Nets won 10 more games than anyone expected. Thomas was a throw-in, a flyer that ended up in the gutter.

I think the Lakers trade was worse. Should not have had to convey a 1st round pick with Clarkson's bloated salary in the Lakers deal. And Rodney Hood... man.

 

[roozy]

The Irving trade was always a lottery gamble that bit them when the Nets won 10 more games than anyone expected. Thomas was a throw-in, a flyer that ended up in the gutter.

I think the Lakers trade was worse. Should not have had to convey a 1st round pick with Clarkson's bloated salary in the Lakers deal. And Rodney Hood... man.

Yep the Lakers trade is worse to me.

 

[Pjlea28]

View: https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1071179109739319296

It was a GREAT trade for the Bucks.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

A lot of praise for Koby and I don't understand why?

Bucks needed to clear cap space in order to sign another high level FA so they could contend and entice Giannis to stay. We give up a very serviceable player in Hill on a good contract and in return get two bad contracts in Delly and Henson and a highly protected 1st round pick (and a 2nd)? Hill by himself is worth a 1st to a desperate contender imo, and us absorbing Delly and Henson should both net us a 1st by themselves.

What am I missing? Is it because of Delly?

 

[Cassity14]

A lot of praise for Koby and I don't understand why?

Bucks needed to clear cap space in order to sign another high level FA so they could contend and entice Giannis to stay. We give up a very serviceable player in Hill on a good contract and in return get two bad contracts in Delly and Henson and a highly protected 1st round pick (and a 2nd)? Hill by himself is worth a 1st to a desperate contender imo, and us absorbing Delly and Henson should both net us a 1st by themselves.

What am I missing? Is it because of Delly?

Isn't it a first and 2 seconds?

Considering what the Cavs gave up to get Hill, what they turned him into is a pretty big deal.

I'm not sure who would give up a first for Hill. The Cavs were as desperate as it gets among contenders last season and they didn't give up anything of value for him. I agree that taking back the contracts was worth a first on its own, so Hill essentially brought in a pair of second round picks. If that's the case, Altman got the same value for Hill that he just got for Korver, which is pretty nice.

It's not an earth-shattering move, but it was a strong, prudent one. He's accumulating assets, which is all you can hope for him to do right now.