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Kyrie Irving

Discussion in 'Cavs Talk' started by wuck, Oct 7, 2016.

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  1. thedarkness2332

    thedarkness2332 The Official Ass-Slap Guy

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    Not to mention Kyrie usually finishes around the hoop anyway.

    You know how this league works... often times there's only a late whistle if the guy misses. And even so, when he gets a whistle, it's one free-throw at a higher rate than IT. Not that I'm complaining about and-1 opportunities, it's just part of why Irving isn't getting to the line as much from a numbers perspective.
     
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    jrjim Rookie

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    As he should be. Even though Kyrie made the shot, it was a lot tougher than it needed to be. Klay is an excellent man defender, if you have the chance to iso Livingtson instead, take it every time
     
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    gourimoko Fighting the good fight!

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    Sometimes folks should just trust the guy with the ball.. Kyrie knows what he's doing.
     
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    Yeah and that's pretty much what Lue said in the presser. Kinda laughed to himself and said something like "guess he wanted Klay"
     
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    iWx Sixth Man

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    There is probably some sort of comfort level going against Klay. I'm sure they went hard at each other in those team USA practices.
     
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    RuanuLaw The Dark Knight

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    The Wizard of Moz Lindorable

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    Quote from the article:

    "Curry, Harden, Westbrook and Paul all do as much or more offensively while not nearly dragging their teams down defensively the way Irving does."

    Just ignore it. Idk who this guy is, but he quite obviously has an agenda. Curry got benched with an illegal substitution for the last possession of the Cavs Warriors game because he is that bad defensively while Kyrie made a fallaway over Klay.

    They would literally sooner make an illegal substitution than have a chance of the Cavs matching up Curry and Kyrie. This is a guy who doesn't drag their team down defensively the way Irving does.
     
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    jking948 All-Star

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    "ESPN Insider director: All right guys, we need a good NBA article. There are so many stories to write about. We need something unique.

    Jeremias: I got it! Let's write about Kyrie Irving and his RPM!

    EID: Jeremias, good idea, but I feel like we did that before.

    Jeremias: It's been one whole week!

    EID: Good point. Get cracking."

    /end scene
     
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  11. FiftyTwoAndThrough

    FiftyTwoAndThrough Fierce Screener

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    Just throwing this out there as one data point, offensive points per possession this year (percentile in parentheses)

    Curry 1.123 PPP (96th)
    Thomas 1.12 PPP (96th)
    Lowry 1.111 PPP (95th)
    Lillard 1.062 PPP (87th)
    Irving 1.052 PPP (86th)
    Paul 1.039 PPP (83rd)
    Walker 1.033 PPP (81st)
    Harden 0.986 PPP (69th)
    Westbrook 0.925 PPP (50th)
    Wall 0.888 PPP (38th)

    I slot Kyrie behind Westbrook, Curry, and Paul (though I debate with Paul). With the rest, I think Kyrie has a legit case.

    This elite "embrace debate" BS is really something else.

    Soon to be 4x All-Star
    ASG MVP
    ROY
    PG for Gold Medal USA
    NBA champion
    41 in elimination G5 of Finals
    Most clutch shot in NBA history

    If that isn't elite, then what in the hell is?

    If you want to ding Kyrie for his truly poor defense and inability to carry a team alone when he was 19-22, OK I guess mission accomplished then.

    Numbers without context are just intellectually dishonest.

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  12. Tyrone Slothrop

    Tyrone Slothrop Too old to suffer fools

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    Bad game Kyrie. File and forget. Take it out on Lillard :mad:
     
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  13. TyGuy

    TyGuy With the Left hand!

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    What happened to the guy we had for a week that was making plays for other guys and kicking out to shooters?
     
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    It's looking personal with him and a kind of confirmation bias. He can't capture Kyrie's magic with his RPM.

    He writes trash like this only to tune into the NBA finals and watch Kyrie dominate his RPM darlings to win a ship. He probably also saw Kyrie along with LeBron leading all-star voting, coupled with last night's sub-par performance, and decides to write said article to keep himself confirmed.
     
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    Zeus69 Bipolar Cavs fan

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    It was actually "legal", but point made.

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    Review #GSWatCLE, 13.5 of Q4: Curry substitution was permissible due to 24-second clock violation.
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