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2017-2018 Boston Celtics: No Irving! No Hayward! No Brooklyn Pick!

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Regrade the finalized trade

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    Votes: 20 8.0%
  • A

    Votes: 70 27.9%
  • B

    Votes: 74 29.5%
  • C

    Votes: 39 15.5%
  • D

    Votes: 18 7.2%
  • F

    Votes: 30 12.0%

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Phoenix should kick themselves for this. Add an unproven rookie to your offer and you'd have had Kyrie a week ago. Now Kyrie might be staying. To rub salt in this self inflicted wound, JJ likely turns out to be an underwhelming talent or a bust. Some franchises stay irrelevant for a reason
 
Phoenix should kick themselves for this. Add an unproven rookie to your offer and you'd have had Kyrie a week ago. Now Kyrie might be staying. To rub salt in this self inflicted wound, JJ likely turns out to be an underwhelming talent or a bust. Some franchises stay irrelevant for a reason
If you took off your homer spectacles you'd realize that it makes no sense for Phoenix to trade for Kyrie. Like, none.
 
You can only compete in the playoffs, if you have the best players in the league on your roster. Kyrie is a top 15 player. if you have a chance to add that to your roster for multiple years..you do it.

Bledsoe will never be a top 15 player.
JJ will not be a top 15 player.
That future pic will not be a top 15 player.

PHX loses that deal by not taking that deal.
 
You can only compete in the playoffs, if you have the best players in the league on your roster. Kyrie is a top 15 player. if you have a chance to add that to your roster for multiple years..you do it.

Bledsoe will never be a top 15 player.
JJ will not be a top 15 player.
That future pic will not be a top 15 player.

PHX loses that deal by not taking that deal.
Kyrie wouldn't help Phoenix do jack shit. They probably wouldn't even make the playoffs and even if they did it'd be a quick first round exit.

You're projecting your wants and desires for the Cavs roster onto the Phoenix management. In addition to demonstrably not improving the play of his teammates, Kyrie's behavior the past few weeks hasn't earned him any gold stars in the public eye. Add to that his assertion that he wouldn't re-sign if traded, why would a young team whose best years are a couple away trade for a guy like that?

And I'm going to proceed to laugh at your Josh Jackson prediction. Uproariously. Not because I believe or disbelieve he'll be a top-15 player, but because as of August 2017 you have absolutely ZERO knowledge of what he'll be. Definitive statements like that are pinheaded.
 
Did Josh Jackson just let slip something to the Suns' detriment? Josh Jackson himself said no one from the Suns told him he wouldn't be traded, which condradicts previous so-called confirmed reports that Josh Jackson was told he wouldn't be traded. The Cavs will get Josh Jackson and it's only a matter of time. I still think the Suns offer Bledsoe and Jackson at the last minute before the start of training camp to see if they can avoid including the Miami first-rounder the Cavs also want. Kyrie for Bledsoe and this year's number 4 pick(which turned out to be Josh Jackson) without the Miami pick was a predraft threeway trade rumor to ship the number 4 pick to the Pacers for Paul George.

https://clutchpoints.com/suns-news-josh-jackson-addresses-kyrie-irving-trade-rumors/

Jackson also added that no one in the Suns specifically told him the trade was not going to happen. But Jackson seemed fine with this since the deal never really got to the point of really being possible so that the Suns would need to reassure him like that.

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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...-jackson-in-any-potential-kyrie-irving-trade/

No potential frameworks have been reported on any front so far, however we do know one player who will not be included in any potential Cavs-Suns trade. According to a report from John Gambadoro of Arizona Sports 98.7 FM, and later confirmed by ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, the Suns will not include Josh Jackson in any Kyrie Irving trade, and have assured the No. 4 overall pick in last month's draft of that fact.

This is the trade I prefer most, but I would love to see the Cavs find a way to squeeze Tyson Chandler into that deal, possibly by unloading an extra player or 2 in the deal with irving. No matter how many teams seem to be interested in kyrie, the suns still have the most trade assets to offer, so kyrie is all theirs if they want him. All they need to do is let go of Jackson.

Cavs get: Jackson, Bledsoe, Chandler
Suns get: Irving, Shumpert, Frye

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yayy7zxq
 
Shhhhh
 
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I still can't beleive their are people here still mentioning Melo. Like jesus christ I told you all my very first post over a month ago that Melo would never wave his no trade claus to come to Cleveland and only wants to play for Houston. Just incredible amount of homerism around here, it's epic delusions all over the place. Yikes!

We need a douche button.
 
Still holding out hope that we deal him. Makes no sense at this point to keep him. He is our only asset, and with him we have no chance vs GS anyhow, barring injury. Will a team just bite the bullet already and deal. Even without Kyrie and adding no one, we are still the favorites in the East. We need something to change and Kyrie gave us that chance with his antics. Capitalize.
 
I think Irving is going to the Clippers.

We can do better than what the Clippers have to offer, as we'd basically be looking at a package of DeAndre Jordan, Patrick Beverly, Wes Johnson, & Sam Dekker or Brice Johnson. That's a whole lot of meh.

Here's how I would rate the teams, based on the ability to put together an attractive trade package for Kyrie:

1) Suns- have loads of young talent, PG Eric Bledsoe, and two extra first round picks, courtesy of the Heat, at their disposal. The problem is the Suns appear unwilling to part with Booker, Jackson, or their own first round pick, which makes working a deal difficult.
2) Celtics- they have young talent, like Jaylen Brown & Jayson Tatum, PG Isaiah Thomas, and boatloads of draft picks, including Brooklyn's 2018 1st.
3) Sixers- another team with a boatload of young talent & draft picks to offer. Would they offer Ben Simmons in a package for Kyrie?
4) Blazers- there have been some rumors and a swap of Kyrie, Shumpert, & Frye for Lillard & Harkless is an almost perfect match under the salary cap.
5) Pistons- they could offer an enticing package headlined by Drummond and including a point guard (Jackson or Bradley) and perhaps a wing (Harris or Johnson). This is a team that could use a makeover.
6) T'Wolves- and potential deal begins & ends with Andrew Wiggins, who is on the verge of signing a max extension. The Cavs would likely want something else from Minnesota and would want them to take back a bad contract in any deal.
7) Bucks- their interest level seems low, but they they could offer a package of Brogdon, Maker, and a vet, like Middleton, Monroe, or Henson.
8) Heat- could offer a pretty attractive package of Dragic, Winslow, Adebayo, & a future 1st.
9) Hornets- they could offer Kemba Walker & MKG, although their level of interest seems low, given that the franchise is really committed to Walker & vice versa.

In the end, I'm sure the Cavs prefer to send Kyrie out of the conference and it would have to be a slam-dunk deal to send him to a conference foe, especially a team, like the Celtics.
 
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Also who is actually in those pictures? I can make out Lebron but is kyrie actually with him?

No.

Its two guys in the same city. Couldn't be more of a nothing burger.
 
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