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Kyrie Irving

Discussion in 'Cavs Talk' started by wuck, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. fan0283

    fan0283 In the Rotation

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    Phoenix should kick themselves for this. Add an unproven rookie to your offer and you'd have had Kyrie a week ago. Now Kyrie might be staying. To rub salt in this self inflicted wound, JJ likely turns out to be an underwhelming talent or a bust. Some franchises stay irrelevant for a reason
     
  2. JMoneyYourHoney

    JMoneyYourHoney cLUEless

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    If you took off your homer spectacles you'd realize that it makes no sense for Phoenix to trade for Kyrie. Like, none.
     
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  3. Ethan

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    You can only compete in the playoffs, if you have the best players in the league on your roster. Kyrie is a top 15 player. if you have a chance to add that to your roster for multiple years..you do it.

    Bledsoe will never be a top 15 player.
    JJ will not be a top 15 player.
    That future pic will not be a top 15 player.

    PHX loses that deal by not taking that deal.
     
  4. JMoneyYourHoney

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    Kyrie wouldn't help Phoenix do jack shit. They probably wouldn't even make the playoffs and even if they did it'd be a quick first round exit.

    You're projecting your wants and desires for the Cavs roster onto the Phoenix management. In addition to demonstrably not improving the play of his teammates, Kyrie's behavior the past few weeks hasn't earned him any gold stars in the public eye. Add to that his assertion that he wouldn't re-sign if traded, why would a young team whose best years are a couple away trade for a guy like that?

    And I'm going to proceed to laugh at your Josh Jackson prediction. Uproariously. Not because I believe or disbelieve he'll be a top-15 player, but because as of August 2017 you have absolutely ZERO knowledge of what he'll be. Definitive statements like that are pinheaded.
     
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  5. UltraRadical-CavFanatical

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    This is the trade I prefer most, but I would love to see the Cavs find a way to squeeze Tyson Chandler into that deal, possibly by unloading an extra player or 2 in the deal with irving. No matter how many teams seem to be interested in kyrie, the suns still have the most trade assets to offer, so kyrie is all theirs if they want him. All they need to do is let go of Jackson.

    Cavs get: Jackson, Bledsoe, Chandler
    Suns get: Irving, Shumpert, Frye

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yayy7zxq
     
  6. 23Lebron

    23Lebron Kī tōnu taku waka topaki i te tuna

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    I think Irving is going to the Clippers.
     
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  8. Kyrieville

    Kyrieville Sixth Man

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    We need a douche button.
     
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  9. BrutX15

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    Still holding out hope that we deal him. Makes no sense at this point to keep him. He is our only asset, and with him we have no chance vs GS anyhow, barring injury. Will a team just bite the bullet already and deal. Even without Kyrie and adding no one, we are still the favorites in the East. We need something to change and Kyrie gave us that chance with his antics. Capitalize.
     
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  10. wremy

    wremy Draymond's touched more weiners than Joey Chestnut

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    They don't have anything to trade us...
    Bev and DJ aren't getting it done
     
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  11. sailfish

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    We can do better than what the Clippers have to offer, as we'd basically be looking at a package of DeAndre Jordan, Patrick Beverly, Wes Johnson, & Sam Dekker or Brice Johnson. That's a whole lot of meh.

    Here's how I would rate the teams, based on the ability to put together an attractive trade package for Kyrie:

    1) Suns- have loads of young talent, PG Eric Bledsoe, and two extra first round picks, courtesy of the Heat, at their disposal. The problem is the Suns appear unwilling to part with Booker, Jackson, or their own first round pick, which makes working a deal difficult.
    2) Celtics- they have young talent, like Jaylen Brown & Jayson Tatum, PG Isaiah Thomas, and boatloads of draft picks, including Brooklyn's 2018 1st.
    3) Sixers- another team with a boatload of young talent & draft picks to offer. Would they offer Ben Simmons in a package for Kyrie?
    4) Blazers- there have been some rumors and a swap of Kyrie, Shumpert, & Frye for Lillard & Harkless is an almost perfect match under the salary cap.
    5) Pistons- they could offer an enticing package headlined by Drummond and including a point guard (Jackson or Bradley) and perhaps a wing (Harris or Johnson). This is a team that could use a makeover.
    6) T'Wolves- and potential deal begins & ends with Andrew Wiggins, who is on the verge of signing a max extension. The Cavs would likely want something else from Minnesota and would want them to take back a bad contract in any deal.
    7) Bucks- their interest level seems low, but they they could offer a package of Brogdon, Maker, and a vet, like Middleton, Monroe, or Henson.
    8) Heat- could offer a pretty attractive package of Dragic, Winslow, Adebayo, & a future 1st.
    9) Hornets- they could offer Kemba Walker & MKG, although their level of interest seems low, given that the franchise is really committed to Walker & vice versa.

    In the end, I'm sure the Cavs prefer to send Kyrie out of the conference and it would have to be a slam-dunk deal to send him to a conference foe, especially a team, like the Celtics.
     
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  12. Rich

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    No.

    Its two guys in the same city. Couldn't be more of a nothing burger.
     
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    shoes22 Hall-of-Famer

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    LeBron liking Kyrie's shoe? That's kinda weird. I wonder if there's been a thawing between them or if this dispute between the two isn't manufactured to get Kyrie out of town, with LeBron planning to follow him next offseason? Interesting nontheless.
     
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    Y'all really think LBJ is the only one who manages his IG account

    Sometimes I wonder about you all I really do
     
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