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I dont get the optimism.. The cavs beat the warriors by 4 last finals.. They added durant.. And now we are asking lbj to both cover durant and green while being the primary playmaker, rim protector, and scorer.. I know how great lbj is but that is asking him too much.. We have no depth whatsoever.. We are marching to the playoffs with an 8 man rotation hoping nobody else gets injured.. Our bench consists of players on the wrong side of 30.. 2/3 of the big 3 are injury prone and defensive liabilities..

Can the cavs beat the warriors? I hope.. Lbj needs to go super saiyan 4 on them and hope kyrie plays better defense and efficient offense..

You don't "get the optimism"?

We won the title! We are the Champs. Battle tested.

Love is brand new person this year, Kyrie has clearly improved. Shumpert is shooting 40% from 3 this year(was useless last year) We just added Kyle Korver and may not be done.

Christmas proved that yet again, if the game is close, the Cavs have a distinctive advantage.

The Finals are a completely different situation than the middle of January. Suddenly a lot of things change.

A lot of the grabbing, pushing, hitting, etc...the physicality that the Cavs definitely have proven they bring to the table vs. the Warriors, that stuff will foul you out in January but won't even get you in foul TROUBLE come June. Draymond is still a loose cannon for flagrants, techs, ejections, suspensions, etc. The Warriors are blowing people the fuck out, but they are struggling with that crunch time identity. The Warriors are also not deep. The Warriors have not sustained any injuries this year. Maybe they have a horseshoe up their collective asses, but maybe they just haven't gotten hurt YET. The Cavs showed early in the year how easily we could cruise. We hit a rough patch in the dog days of the NBA season with a combination of injury, sickness, lack of continuity, bad-timed roadtrips, travel issues, etc.

Starters+ Shump, Korver, Frye, Jefferson is a 9 man rotation. Liggins puts it at 10. The Cavs are deep enough for a playoff run. May still have more help coming.

We have PROVEN, consistent line-up compositions that give the Warriors problems. LeBron at the 4 with a spread floor and Thompson/Love at the 5(Used to be JUST TT, but Love's defensive impact has gotten significantly better, and he is very viable for real minutes in those lineups) gives the Warriors problems. It did on Christmas and it did during the entire Finals. Even the ESPN dudes like Haberstroh(stat nerd who usually is pretty ignorant about everything Cleveland) have said: the January game's scheduling alone was a pretty good indicator of an impending blowout. Cavs should have rested starters for that game. He's written big pieces on rest in the NBA and how it correlates to wins and losses. The Cavs were depleted coming into that game and the Warriors were almost fully charged. We were down by 20 before we even could unleash one of OUR death line-ups, and I don't think we ever even did because of the deficit.

Categorizing love as a defensive liability is completely and totally wrong and ignores facts. He's been solid all around this season. Kyrie showed last year he's very capable of defending on the big stage. I also believe the Cavs will alter their scheme again back to a more basic scheme like last year with a lot of switching and I think it will prove way more effective than showing and recovering when you don't have the personnel to do it.

The Cavs are going to get through the next few weeks, and get to the all-star break, everyoone is gonna get some needed rest, and when we come back we;re probably going to start kicking everyones ass, like we do every year now, and then we'll get JR back before the end of the season with 2+ months until the Finals even start to get in groove.

I think people need to remember that this is usually the time every season when the Cavs start looking bad and people start getting all pessimistic. We might be going for a 3-peat if not for Kelly Olynyk and a kneecap.
 
You don't "get the optimism"?

We won the title! We are the Champs. Battle tested.

Love is brand new person this year, Kyrie has clearly improved. Shumpert is shooting 40% from 3 this year(was useless last year) We just added Kyle Korver and may not be done.

Christmas proved that yet again, if the game is close, the Cavs have a distinctive advantage.

The Finals are a completely different situation than the middle of January. Suddenly a lot of things change.

A lot of the grabbing, pushing, hitting, etc...the physicality that the Cavs definitely have proven they bring to the table vs. the Warriors, that stuff will foul you out in January but won't even get you in foul TROUBLE come June. Draymond is still a loose cannon for flagrants, techs, ejections, suspensions, etc. The Warriors are blowing people the fuck out, but they are struggling with that crunch time identity. The Warriors are also not deep. The Warriors have not sustained any injuries this year. Maybe they have a horseshoe up their collective asses, but maybe they just haven't gotten hurt YET. The Cavs showed early in the year how easily we could cruise. We hit a rough patch in the dog days of the NBA season with a combination of injury, sickness, lack of continuity, bad-timed roadtrips, travel issues, etc.

Starters+ Shump, Korver, Frye, Jefferson is a 9 man rotation. Liggins puts it at 10. The Cavs are deep enough for a playoff run. May still have more help coming.

We have PROVEN, consistent line-up compositions that give the Warriors problems. LeBron at the 4 with a spread floor and Thompson/Love at the 5(Used to be JUST TT, but Love's defensive impact has gotten significantly better, and he is very viable for real minutes in those lineups) gives the Warriors problems. It did on Christmas and it did during the entire Finals. Even the ESPN dudes like Haberstroh(stat nerd who usually is pretty ignorant about everything Cleveland) have said: the January game's scheduling alone was a pretty good indicator of an impending blowout. Cavs should have rested starters for that game. He's written big pieces on rest in the NBA and how it correlates to wins and losses. The Cavs were depleted coming into that game and the Warriors were almost fully charged. We were down by 20 before we even could unleash one of OUR death line-ups, and I don't think we ever even did because of the deficit.

Categorizing love as a defensive liability is completely and totally wrong and ignores facts. He's been solid all around this season. Kyrie showed last year he's very capable of defending on the big stage. I also believe the Cavs will alter their scheme again back to a more basic scheme like last year with a lot of switching and I think it will prove way more effective than showing and recovering when you don't have the personnel to do it.

The Cavs are going to get through the next few weeks, and get to the all-star break, everyoone is gonna get some needed rest, and when we come back we;re probably going to start kicking everyones ass, like we do every year now, and then we'll get JR back before the end of the season with 2+ months until the Finals even start to get in groove.

I think people need to remember that this is usually the time every season when the Cavs start looking bad and people start getting all pessimistic. We might be going for a 3-peat if not for Kelly Olynyk and a kneecap.

Bravo, sir. Brav-fucking-o

Wish I could've repped it twice.
 
To be fair - we did not dominate GSW on Christmas. We were down 14 with just over 9 minutes to go...
I don't know. I mean, coming back like that on them, with a Block and a Shot, felt pretty dominate to me.

When it mattered most, we dug deep and took the win from them. That's harder than just keeping it close all game.
 
You don't "get the optimism"?

We won the title! We are the Champs. Battle tested.

Love is brand new person this year, Kyrie has clearly improved. Shumpert is shooting 40% from 3 this year(was useless last year) We just added Kyle Korver and may not be done.

Christmas proved that yet again, if the game is close, the Cavs have a distinctive advantage.

The Finals are a completely different situation than the middle of January. Suddenly a lot of things change.

A lot of the grabbing, pushing, hitting, etc...the physicality that the Cavs definitely have proven they bring to the table vs. the Warriors, that stuff will foul you out in January but won't even get you in foul TROUBLE come June. Draymond is still a loose cannon for flagrants, techs, ejections, suspensions, etc. The Warriors are blowing people the fuck out, but they are struggling with that crunch time identity. The Warriors are also not deep. The Warriors have not sustained any injuries this year. Maybe they have a horseshoe up their collective asses, but maybe they just haven't gotten hurt YET. The Cavs showed early in the year how easily we could cruise. We hit a rough patch in the dog days of the NBA season with a combination of injury, sickness, lack of continuity, bad-timed roadtrips, travel issues, etc.

Starters+ Shump, Korver, Frye, Jefferson is a 9 man rotation. Liggins puts it at 10. The Cavs are deep enough for a playoff run. May still have more help coming.

We have PROVEN, consistent line-up compositions that give the Warriors problems. LeBron at the 4 with a spread floor and Thompson/Love at the 5(Used to be JUST TT, but Love's defensive impact has gotten significantly better, and he is very viable for real minutes in those lineups) gives the Warriors problems. It did on Christmas and it did during the entire Finals. Even the ESPN dudes like Haberstroh(stat nerd who usually is pretty ignorant about everything Cleveland) have said: the January game's scheduling alone was a pretty good indicator of an impending blowout. Cavs should have rested starters for that game. He's written big pieces on rest in the NBA and how it correlates to wins and losses. The Cavs were depleted coming into that game and the Warriors were almost fully charged. We were down by 20 before we even could unleash one of OUR death line-ups, and I don't think we ever even did because of the deficit.

Categorizing love as a defensive liability is completely and totally wrong and ignores facts. He's been solid all around this season. Kyrie showed last year he's very capable of defending on the big stage. I also believe the Cavs will alter their scheme again back to a more basic scheme like last year with a lot of switching and I think it will prove way more effective than showing and recovering when you don't have the personnel to do it.

The Cavs are going to get through the next few weeks, and get to the all-star break, everyoone is gonna get some needed rest, and when we come back we;re probably going to start kicking everyones ass, like we do every year now, and then we'll get JR back before the end of the season with 2+ months until the Finals even start to get in groove.

I think people need to remember that this is usually the time every season when the Cavs start looking bad and people start getting all pessimistic. We might be going for a 3-peat if not for Kelly Olynyk and a kneecap.

@InBoobieWeTrust putting in work.. Great post!
 
I dont get the optimism.. The cavs beat the warriors by 4 last finals.. They added durant.. And now we are asking lbj to both cover durant and green while being the primary playmaker, rim protector, and scorer.. I know how great lbj is but that is asking him too much.. We have no depth whatsoever.. We are marching to the playoffs with an 8 man rotation hoping nobody else gets injured.. Our bench consists of players on the wrong side of 30.. 2/3 of the big 3 are injury prone and defensive liabilities..

Can the cavs beat the warriors? I hope.. Lbj needs to go super saiyan 4 on them and hope kyrie plays better defense and efficient offense..

The Cavs controlled the Warriors 3/4 games at the end of the Finals. Only game 7 was close.

There's no reason to be "optimistic."

But there are strategies to beat them, and pretending that the way the finals finished last year were somehow squeaked out by the Cavs is inaccurate.
 
Sorry just not buying it: Irving maybe better (if we count his ups which were good but not downs), Shumpert maybe better (depends on which version we get of him), Love maybe better (I was most optimistic about him but that GI bug and back uggh).

On the other hand: RJ has clearly taken a step back (he gave us 3 really really good games in the Finals: I'd be happy with one this year), we don't have a backup PG to soak up minutes in the eastern playoffs. And we controlled a series against the Warriors when Bogut went down and Green was suspended one game, and we got Barnes to choke: they added Kevin Durant which is by any sane measure a huge add on while we got an old Korver. We on the other hand are hoping JR is fit for the Finals. Are the Warriors to some teams: yeah I think teams like Memphis and SA with size can cause them trouble but they got people specifically to beat us and we haven't reciprocated
 
Sorry just not buying it: Irving maybe better (if we count his ups which were good but not downs), Shumpert maybe better (depends on which version we get of him), Love maybe better (I was most optimistic about him but that GI bug and back uggh).

On the other hand: RJ has clearly taken a step back (he gave us 3 really really good games in the Finals: I'd be happy with one this year), we don't have a backup PG to soak up minutes in the eastern playoffs. And we controlled a series against the Warriors when Bogut went down and Green was suspended one game, and we got Barnes to choke: they added Kevin Durant which is by any sane measure a huge add on while we got an old Korver. We on the other hand are hoping JR is fit for the Finals. Are the Warriors to some teams: yeah I think teams like Memphis and SA with size can cause them trouble but they got people specifically to beat us and we haven't reciprocated

Look man any sane fan knows the warriors are clearly better and it will take an unthinkable miraculous feat for our team of knuckleheads to get the job done

If they manage to come out as champs again. , it will go down in history as the biggest remarkable feat not only in sports but in life


But we have seen crazy shit happen, we have seen the King pull titles out of his ass, not once but multiple times

They never gave us a chance down 3-1, they buried us alive

Now if the warriors manage to not sweep the playoffs all the way to the title (they should) it will go down in history as the biggest choke job since their very own last year
 
This is the LeBron James thread

But you wouldn't know it without the title of the thread

Every single thread is divulging into warrior panic right now just like last year and it's driving me fucking crazy

You don't think the Cavs can beat the Warriors? Cool. Can you contain it to one of the 2 Warriors threads we have. I'm so sick of every single thread turning into 'I don't think we can beat the Warriors'

Pinoycavsfan trust me at this point you've made your point clear. Every single poster on this site knows you think we can't win.
 
I dont get the optimism.. The cavs beat the warriors by 4 last finals.. They added durant.. And now we are asking lbj to both cover durant and green while being the primary playmaker, rim protector, and scorer.. I know how great lbj is but that is asking him too much.. We have no depth whatsoever.. We are marching to the playoffs with an 8 man rotation hoping nobody else gets injured.. Our bench consists of players on the wrong side of 30.. 2/3 of the big 3 are injury prone and defensive liabilities..
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This is the LeBron James thread

But you wouldn't know it without the title of the thread

Every single thread is divulging into warrior panic right now just like last year and it's driving me fucking crazy

You don't think the Cavs can beat the Warriors? Cool. Can you contain it to one of the 2 Warriors threads we have. I'm so sick of every single thread turning into 'I don't think we can beat the Warriors'

Pinoycavsfan trust me at this point you've made your point clear. Every single poster on this site knows you think we can't win.


Thank you!!

Have people forgotten that KD and Steph and Klay are still all chokers,whiners etc?
Have people forgotten that for the last 2 years our Team was miles better when the Playoff started?
Have people forgotten we Still have propably the Greatest Player,Teammate and Leader of all time, still in his prime who actually rediscovered his Jumpshot?
Have people forgotten that Love is back to his 20/10 self?

I could go on..

I cant believe the panic is back....
We did beat them last year.. the Margin does not matter.. we won.. period..

Why do so many people fear them so much? We know how to beat them..
It hasnt changed. Yes KD makes them even harder to defend yet they will not be able to defend us when Lebron is in Playoffs mode.. going at Zaza,KD,Green at the Rim every damn posession.. Add Kyrie and Love doing the same and We very well have a good chance.

Yes they are even more scary on a good night... but that was to be expected..

They are still the same arrogant bunch that resorts to whining when you bully them instead of fighting back... They have no balls..

Why are so many only focusing on GSW .. its the same shit that happened last year.. "we cant stop them" .."we dont match up with them" .. etc..

Dont forget that we learned too.. i bet the 0-2 thing wont happen again.. their Speed and Athletism wont take us by suprise this time.. and btw 0-2 would not have happened if not for their Bench wich is much worse this year.. They dont have a guy like Barbosa who can play like he is in Phoenix again suddenly and create his own offense

I have complete trust that Lue and his staff will have a new good gameplan against them.
Listen to the Interviews before the Game... Lebron and Lue both said "we dont put all our eggs in one basket"... They literally called that they did not care about this Game´..
and they wont reveal everything in their Game Plan..

Once JR is back our depth is so far ahead of theirs.. especially if get another decent PG

Sooner or later they also will be hit with an untimely injury..

Karma will sort things out..
What more recent "Superteam" has actually became as good as people feared? became that unstoppable dynasty?

04 Mavs(Dirk,Nash,Finley,Jamison,Walker)... nope
04 Lakers... nope
08 Celtics.. almost.. not quite
11-14 Heat ... great but not "1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8..."
12 Lakers... Hell no..
15-Now GSW-- Regular Season: Yes.. Playoffs so far... nope..

No 4 Star Team in 30 years has worked out.. It usually is too top heavy and fragile from a Chemistry and "who gets the ball late in the Game" standpoint..

GSW will be in cap Hell next Summer... their depth will get even worse because they will have to pay Steph and KD.. They will have to let Iggy and Zaza go unless they resign for the Vet Min.

Sa, Memphis, Houston and even the Clippers could when healthy and on a roll all overcome GSW. Its far from a sure thing they even make it to the Finals. Likley yes.. but not guaranteed..

Last years GSW was better than this years.. hell propably Finals 2015 was their best Version.. They are worse than last year if you look past Margins and Net Ratings wich tell you nothing about them in the Playoffs..

Steph .. still a choker..
KD... still a choker
Green.. still always one nut kick away from beeing suspended
Klay.. still cant score on his own..
 
Sorry: I'll keep posting that we aren't going to win a title having too watch Lebron being trotted out with Frye, RJ, Korver, and DeAndre Liggins to start 4th quarters. Hard to blame the couch when this is what he has to work with
 
Yeah, its time for that one odd week break.

I mean, he still looks great and one of the best players in the league. But a break would help him in the longer run. He isn't winning the MVP anyway. No use halting it. Just do it!
 
Sorry: I'll keep posting that we aren't going to win a title having too watch Lebron being trotted out with Frye, RJ, Korver, and DeAndre Liggins to start 4th quarters. Hard to blame the couch when this is what he has to work with


That line-up has actually shown some promise. I thought LeBron was super sloppy and didn't do those guys ANY favors.

Definitley missing JR.

Liggins/Shumpert/Korver/Bron/Thompson....now that's a second unit I could get behind.

Frye needs to be mixed in throughout the game and not married to the second unit.
 
Yeah, its time for that one odd week break.

I mean, he still looks great and one of the best players in the league. But a break would help him in the longer run. He isn't winning the MVP anyway. No use halting it. Just do it!
Yeah, I agree. Also because he's barking at other players too much.
 
Look man any sane fan knows the warriors are clearly better and it will take an unthinkable miraculous feat for our team of knuckleheads to get the job done

If they manage to come out as champs again. , it will go down in history as the biggest remarkable feat not only in sports but in life


But we have seen crazy shit happen, we have seen the King pull titles out of his ass, not once but multiple times

They never gave us a chance down 3-1, they buried us alive

Now if the warriors manage to not sweep the playoffs all the way to the title (they should) it will go down in history as the biggest choke job since their very own last year

I like how this is kinda trollish/tongue-in-cheek post, but it's still somehow so close to truth. Sad to realize that.
 

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