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redscoon said:
Not buying this not being about basketball. LeBron's ego is way too big. Sure, it's a better spot for business and likely preferred by his family, but LeBron absolutely thought guys would flock to him in LA. The writing was on the wall that Kawhi and AD were going to be available and PG was a free agent.

The master plan wasn't to sign every knucklehead available and then nab Muscala at the deadline. This was a gross miscalculation by LeBron and Magic.
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Cavatt said:
It's pretty interesting. I think becoming a mercenary really changes the way fans view you. Durant is dealing with this in the worst way. He is the best player on the best team, but no one would call him the best in the game. It's amazing the way the GS fans hold him at arms length.

Lebron erased his defection to Miami with the return and calling it "college" for him. That was smart, but this latest move makes everything about him ring hollow now. I even think back to Pat Riley saying "You can't give up and leave when things get tough", and that seems even more applicable today.

He has done lasting damage to his legacy and joined an incredibly capricious fan base. What happens when he realizes it wasn't just Cleveland that made other stars reluctant to join him?
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the thing is that it wasn't even an effective mercenary move because it's not like he joined a winning franchise. Mercenary for what? Space Jam II? Right, that will be a huge part of his legacy. Like I've said, I could have respected him if he went to Philly and drove hard for five or six rings and to knock off the Warriors, then it's about taking on the challenge of beating the greatest team ever assembled. Everyone would have respected him if he had stayed and fought in Cleveland. But this is just bullshit and I think he's going to end up flushing one of the greatest career narratives/arcs in NBA history down the toilet.
 
Ohio said:
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Kobe isn't better, but that's gotta hurt. That was always one of the potential nasty narratives if he went to L.A. and didn't bring them a championship. And it might actually get pretty ugly there if he manages to beat Kareem's record while still playing for the Lakers.

But it's the bed he made, so he's gotta lie in it. No way I'd support bringing him here at the end of his career just so he could break that record somewhere other than in L.A..
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
Kobe isn't better, but that's gotta hurt. That was always one of the potential nasty narratives if he went to L.A. and didn't bring them a championship. And it might actually get pretty ugly there if he manages to beat Kareem's record while still playing for the Lakers.

But it's the bed he made, so he's gotta lie in it. No way I'd support bringing him here at the end of his career just so he could break that record somewhere other than in L.A..
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The Hawks and Pacers have been LOL-bait with their fans chanting during free throws.
Hopefully this wakes LeBron up, since I still like him as a basketball player and want to see him do well

But yeah... no sympathy for those who wanted LeBron in a "MaJoR mArKeT" and out of Cleveland.
And especially not for those He-At fans who are like "but we like Cleveland better" now that they have to deal with Lakers fandom/entitlement

I'm on the fence with LeBron himself. I don't like that he straight up signed a 4-year deal there, still.
The East has gotten more entertaining with him gone, for sure. But that sucks that the Lakers get the benefit of "not worrying about LeBron leaving".
 
Dr. Claw said:
The Hawks and Pacers have been LOL-bait with their fans chanting during free throws.
Hopefully this wakes LeBron up, since I still like him as a basketball player and want to see him do well

But yeah... no sympathy for those who wanted LeBron in a "MaJoR mArKeT" and out of Cleveland.
And especially not for those He-At fans who are like "but we like Cleveland better" now that they have to deal with Lakers fandom/entitlement

I'm on the fence with LeBron himself. I don't like that he straight up signed a 4-year deal there, still.
The East has gotten more entertaining with him gone, for sure. But that sucks that the Lakers get the benefit of "not worrying about LeBron leaving".
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Crazy to think of the roster we could have built if he'd of just signed long term. I actually prefer not to think about it. We'd at least have PG and who knows who else. Instead we're stuck with the remnants of the "squad" and total irrelevancy.
 
Phil Mixtape said:
Crazy to think of the roster we could have built if he'd of just signed long term. I actually prefer not to think about it. We'd at least have PG and who knows who else. Instead we're stuck with the remnants of the "squad" and total irrelevancy.
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Indeed. This was definitely done to build "a team" in LA. Only... who knows if that works. We probably won't know until the offseason.
 
I doubt it works. The time for it to work was last summer with Kawhi or PG. Then the timing doesn't match on AD, he will probably get traded to another team this summer and the Lakers can't afford to keep their payroll down next year and hold a spot for him.

The big opportunity would be if Kawhi still wants to go there and not stay in Toronto or go to the Clippers or somewhere. (The Clippers emerging as a good winning organization is a major and underestimated blow to the Lakers, who used to own the LA option for free agents). Barring that, I see the Lakers majorly overpaying for some free agents who won't put them over the top.
 
cavsfever said:
Barring that, I see the Lakers majorly overpaying for some free agents who won't put them over the top.
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Same.

The heckling is nothing new, but I am noticing how fans of "non-outpost" franchises are starting to voice their displeasure at the free throw line. The hilarious stuff from Hawks fans, and the Pacer fans who both heckled the Lakers and the Cavs (LOL), and the Grizzlies fans who were heckling AD when the Pelicans came to play (see the AD thread).

AD probably would have gotten off with a "well, that sucks" type response if Rich Paul hadn't overplayed his hand and announced that AD wasn't going to stay in New Orleans. At worse a Kevin Durant response... IF Rich Paul had not said a thing and all parties waited this thing out.

I get free agency is going to do this to so many teams but I'm not looking forward to that next CBA. Hopefully they don't try to overcorrect the problem.
 
Bosh just said on skip and Shannon today that Lebron never tried to get him in Cleveland
 
LBJ had to go to LA to be closer to a better hair transplant doctor.
 
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