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Did You Like the New Spiderverse Film?

  • Yes!

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  • No!

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  • Far better than the MCU's multiverse bore

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  • Best Marvel film yet!

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  • Needs Hobgoblin

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  • Jim Chones is A Spiderman, not THE Spiderman

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The MCU has been on a bit of a downturn recently but I just got out of Marvels and I was pleasantly surprised. I laughed a lot. I think people will really enjoy the pre and post credit scenes as well. If this is the quality of the MCU moving forward, I would be pleased.

I'm only on episode 3 of Loki but it's decent so far. The Ms. Minutes angle is interesting. Curious to see what they do with it.
 
CardiacCavs said:
The MCU has been on a bit of a downturn recently but I just got out of Marvels and I was pleasantly surprised. I laughed a lot. I think people will really enjoy the pre and post credit scenes as well. If this is the quality of the MCU moving forward, I would be pleased.

I'm only on episode 3 of Loki but it's decent so far. The Ms. Minutes angle is interesting. Curious to see what they do with it.
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Loki was incredible.

The Marvels was significantly better than I was expecting based on reviews & ratings.

Fight scenes were choreographed so well. Chemistry between the 3 was excellent. Side characters brought something. Soundtrack was fun. Bad guy had a serious motive. I didn't see any significant gaps. All additional scenes were (chefs kiss) excellent.

Easily the best MCU (non Sony) movie since Shang Chi. It's a shame they had the strikes because this & Loki should be catalysts to kick start everything again.
 
Jonathan Majors was fired today.

I wonder what the plan is for this iteration of the MCU. It's been a mixed bag when it comes to quality
 
If they recast, I hope they just address it as a 4th wall-break in Deadpool. Don’t really want them to just bring in a new actor and not address anything.

Also fine with them just minimizing the character and charting a new path. Loki tied up enough of the story. They can ‘yada-yada’ the mid-credits scene from Antman and just move on to Doom, X-Man, Beyonder, whatever else.
 
It's time.

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jmuxl said:
If they recast, I hope they just address it as a 4th wall-break in Deadpool. Don’t really want them to just bring in a new actor and not address anything.

Also fine with them just minimizing the character and charting a new path. Loki tied up enough of the story. They can ‘yada-yada’ the mid-credits scene from Antman and just move on to Doom, X-Man, Beyonder, whatever else.
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The Loki ending made it seem like "Kang variants" were under control and wouldn't be a threat. Idk how you pivot without derailing the MCU by another 2 years.

They've already been forced to pivot multiple times by delaying movies and what not. In all reality, we are already 2+ years behind in the MCU.
 
I hope they do a good job with Doom. He is one of the most iconic comic book villains in general. I always felt Marvel did a really bad job with their villains. The good ones carry their movies. The bad ones lead to bad movies (mostly). They also do this stupid thing where they throw away really good villains way too early. Loki and Thanos are really the only ones that survived multiple films, and Loki only did it by turning his alternate self into an anti-hero. So much wasted potential up and down.
 
macbdog said:
As a very casual comic book fan, I think it's going to be tough to adapt Dr Doom to the big screen without him remaining just a wee bit corny. At least, not adapting him in a completely faithful way in my opinion.
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Yes, Doom is sort of ridiculous.

But, if we get past the immediate trappings, he is the perfect type of villain.

He is a lot like Magneto in that he is not evil for no reason.

They have to do a very good job of articulating why Doom does what he does.

Plus they need to do a good job of explaining why he is so powerful.

With the death of Tony Stark it is a little easier.

One can just say that Victor Dhüm of Latveria, a small principality the size of Vermont has taken up the mantle of building Stark type suits in order to protect the planet from further alien threat. Dhüm was a prodigy and one of the smartest men on the planet. A rival of Reed Richards at Harvard. He takes over his "father's" industrial company after the old man dies and makes it one of the most successful on the planet.

Give him a back-story as the son of a Kamar-Taj trained sorceress who had an affair with the Grand Duke of Latveria, and that Victor is the illegitimate son of this affair. The child and mother were packed off and married to a wealthy industrialist to hide the secret. The mother kept a grudge and saw Victor as her avenger and secretly trained him in the mystic arts.

Ultimately, Victor sees his mother snapped and begins a mania in the four years for building suits capable of defending the planet. When the blip is reversed, for some reason, his mother never returns. This radicalizes Victor. Flash forward to 2025, and Victor gains notoriety by using his new suit to overthrow his half-brother, the Grand Duke, and seizes the Grand Ducal Throne for himself. Now with his company's, and Latveria's resources behind him, as well as the immunity and podium as Head of State, he can take to the world stage and upset the balance by demanding a new world-wide accord to resurrect Tony Stark's idea for a suit of armor around the world rather than relying on heroes like the Avengers. As a trained master of the mystic arts, he would also call on Kamar-Taj to take a greater role in protecting the temporal world. Naturally, the world disagrees and this the first seed for conflict.

Ultimately, Doom's motives are to protect the planet, but his means is what ignites conflict with him and the heroes. He is also obsessed with find out why his mother never returned from the Blip (Mephisto, Dormammu, or some other cosmic entity took her soul as in the comics), which leads to later films and conflict with Strange and the more mystical side of Doom.

He can be portrayed as the mirror image of Stark, and as Grand Duke of Latveria the mirror image of T'Challa and Wakanda. Finally, his training in the mystic arts makes him a rival of Dr. Strange, though I would not lean into those powers much in the first couple appearances.

And then that is where he can be inserted. But the baseline of suits, mystic power, Latveria, have all be settled in a more realistic manner than him popping up demanding to rule the world.
 
DirtyDan said:

This and the new Deadpool movie seem promising.
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As does the cast of fantastic 4 coming next July. I can't believe we have been getting Marvel movies this long.

Side note: Madam Webb 3/10. Editing was terrible, so bad that there are entire scenes that bad guys dub doesn't sync with lip movement. Effects are bad especially in action sequences. Lead actress when she actually becomes more comic accurate is weird. Some overall scenes were tacky (especially the beginning).

But...

The premise of the film wasn't entirely terrible. You could sort of see how the developing of powers made for an interesting story. The dynamic between all of the actresses as well as others was pretty solid. Some even funny or charming. If this premise was controlled by Disney it would been a lot better. True MCU integration hurt it as well.
 
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