Mayweather vs Pacquiao | May 2, 2015

[kosis]

Please stop with the condescending "you just don't understand boxing" schtick. Plenty of folks who understand boxing very well, including fighters thselves, thought it was a crappy fight too.

Nothing wrong with having a different opinion, but to act as though your opinion is the only valid one is ridiculous.

Actually, don't think I said that. I was referring specifically to people that don't watch boxing, hence the first line of my post. Is that allowed? Honestly, people complain that boxing is dead, it's never on, only watch heavyweights, then start talking about Floyd "running" after not watching a bout since Lewis/Tyson. There's a clear lack of knowledge of the sport if you say that Floyd "wasn't fighting." That's all.

Never said we can't hold our own opinions.

 

[Ohio]

The thing with Ray Lewis that pisses me off the most is his whole fake religious mantra...makes me fucking sick.

Back to the fight, I don't know what people were expecting. Anyone who has ever seen Floyd fight knows he fights like this. It isn't sexy, but it is brilliant. Maybe people should have done their homework before dropping $100. He's not gonna go in the ring and kill a dude like Mike Tyson. He wins because he's literally untouchable. I don't know why people can't appreciate that, but that's on them.

 

[Tornicade]

I wanted to add the weight divisions are out of control.. 17 is ridiculous from a traditional 8.

What has fragmenting the boxer weight really done for boxing. not much in my opinion except give the WBO more titles to handout to guys who would just be contenders if they gained or lost 3 pounds.
Plus the weigh in weight and actual fighting weights make a mockery of this weight division.

The old weight divisions were generally separated by 9-15 pounds.
Looka at Sugar ray leanord and Mayweathers and a host of other Welterwight fighters. They have won titles in multiple weight division. mayweather has won in 5 different weight divisions and has fought succesfully and intentionally with guys who fought 10 lbs heavier.

Its a sham that Boxing organizations use to get title sanctioning fees.

you want more titles. make them geographical and use them for tournaments to win the world title when vacated or to pick a mandatory competitor for the world title once a year.

 

[The Oi]

I did watch some video of Mayweather not getting hit. I'll acknowledge that it's pretty unreal.

I just feel like I'm watching a guy cross a defender over three times and then never shoot the ball though.

 

[Rich]

The thing with Ray Lewis that pisses me off the most is his whole fake religious mantra...makes me fucking sick.

Back to the fight, I don't know what people were expecting. Anyone who has ever seen Floyd fight knows he fights like this. It isn't sexy, but it is brilliant. Maybe people should have done their homework before dropping $100. He's not gonna go in the ring and kill a dude like Mike Tyson. He wins because he's literally untouchable. I don't know why people can't appreciate that, but that's on them.

The Ray Lewis religious conversion would be a lot more believable and I'd have a lot more respect for the guy if he, you know, told everyone what the hell happened that night.

Instead Mr. I Love Jesus has somehow found it perfectly Christ-like to stay silent on it.

 

[gourimoko]

I did watch some video of Mayweather not getting hit. I'll acknowledge that it's pretty unreal.

I just feel like I'm watching a guy cross a defender over three times and then never shoot the ball though.

Mayweather punched Manny about 150 times, cleanly, often to the face.

 

[The Oi]

Mayweather punched Manny about 150 times, cleanly, often to the face.

So he made layups.

I need dunks, or at the very least circus layups.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I personally think there's a difference between watching a great fight, and watching a great fighter. I've only gone to 30 or so cards live, but I've watched a lot on TV. I've seen some great fights involving unranked fighters on the undercard, and a lot of stinkers involving the main event.

To me, what usually makes a great fight is a clash of styles that forces each fighter out of his comfort zone, with an ebb and floe, memorable exchanges, and some demonstration of guts/heart.

This fight had none of that. No memorable exchanges, and each round was basically just a replay of the last. The few rounds Manny won also looked the same. Neither fighter was ever in trouble, neither took any risks, and they both finished without a mark on them. They both looked like they were just cashing checks.

That may well have been a function of how old they were, particularly Manny. Because of Mayweather's very conservative fighting style, an entertaining Mayweather fight requires a very active opponent willing to take shots and force the action. At this point in his career, that's not Manny. A very conservative fighter paired with a guy unable/unwilling to take risks and press the action makes for a very boring fight, IMO.

Of course, that wouldn't have prevented Mayweather from being more aggressive, but that's just not the way he's chosen to fight, which is why I've never bought one of his fights.

I would have bought this fight 5-7 years ago, though.

 

[Gunther]

I personally think there's a difference between watching a great fight, and watching a great fighter. I've only gone to 30 or so cards live, but I've watched a lot on TV. I've seen some great fights involving unranked fighters on the undercard, and a lot of stinkers involving the main event.

To me, what usually makes a great fight is a clash of styles that forces each fighter out of his comfort zone, with an ebb and floe, memorable exchanges, and some demonstration of guts/heart.

This fight had none of that. No memorable exchanges, and each round was basically just a replay of the last. The few rounds Manny won also looked the same. Neither fighter was ever in trouble, neither took any risks, and they both finished without a mark on them. They both looked like they were just cashing checks.

That may well have been a function of how old they were, particularly Manny. Because of Mayweather's very conservative fighting style, an entertaining Mayweather fight requires a very active opponent willing to take shots and force the action. At this point in his career, that's not Manny. A very conservative fighter paired with a guy unable/unwilling to take risks and press the action makes for a very boring fight, IMO.

Of course, that wouldn't have prevented Mayweather from being more aggressive, but that's just not the way he's chosen to fight, which is why I've never bought one of his fights.

I would have bought this fight 5-7 years ago, though.

Pretty much agree with this post. I went in with a friend and bought the fight and got what I expected. What I was hoping for, however, was the off chance that I would see Floyd put on his ass, but to no avail. I still enjoyed it, though.

I did find myself wondering what Floyd was doing with my money the next day. I envisioned ass-wipings, cigar-lightings, buying a Vegas meth-ho a BK extra-value meal to lick his toes, etc., etc..

 

[Jack Brickman]

Mayweather punched Manny about 150 times, cleanly, often to the face.

And yet both guys finished the fight without a scratch on them and looking like they'd just completed a mildly exerting workout. It was just a very conservative fight that looked more like the two guys were there to collect their checks than anything else.

 

[gourimoko]

And yet both guys finished the fight without a scratch on them

Manny was visible bruised on his face and is even now saying that he suffered injuries not only before but during the fight.

But honestly, I think Gunther put it best, some folks wanted to see Mayweather put on his ass and didn't even see him get touched... so, it was a let down.

Today on the radio they can't stop talking about Mayweather's DV conviction and how people who root for him are inherently stupid in a very, well, interesting sort of way..

So I'm to the point where I'm done with it, I can see where the divisions lie and I'm not really interested in delving any further. Mayweather is the best pound for pound boxer, he proved it again the other night, people need to either deal with it or move on.

Shame we never really once talked about the fight itself, in all these pages....

 

[Jack Brickman]

Shame we never really once talked about the fight itself, in all these pages....

Kind of says a lot about how exciting it was.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Hagler-Leonard was another fight that also was perceived as being past its "sell-by" date, but those dudes fought. The ninth round alone was worth the closed-circuit price of admission.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

https://youtu.be/3Lj4_BRV20MM

Hagler - Leonard, 9th round. Really high level of activity even prior to this round. Leonard in particular tired as hell, but just....damn. I was in a theater with 1200 other screaming jarheads at this fight, and everyone was on their feet.

 

[The Oi]

Hagler-Leonard was another fight that also was perceived as being past its "sell-by" date, but those dudes fought. The ninth round alone was worth the closed-circuit price of admission.

Sidenote:

Just remembered I have a Hearns vs Leonard 1 ticket from their Sept 16, 1981 fight inside one of my collectibles safes. Dad sat in the Caesar's Terrace and saved the ticket.

I can't get to it where it is right now in my attic, but it's the same ticket as on the right below.