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Randolphkeys said:
Sashi worked with the consultation group and the Haslam family when Hue was hired, however he was not the GM at the time. His role was more of a liaison within his former role. Sashi wasn't the first choice to spearhead the front office, and his role is supposed to be a conduit and communication hub for all the moving parts within the front office.

I think His is safe for another season, my opinion looking at what's in front of me. They just got heat from ownership to overpay for McCarron.

I'll say this, the Haslam family might be looking to the corporate world to do business a new way, but I'm sure all these checks and balances get in the way of old school teams hammering out a deal. It's much easier for Belichick to just call John Lynch and get the Jimmy G deal done in one phone call than having Sashi get buy-in from all the Browns moving parts. There are negatives with a corporate setup.
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There was a report about how Lynch has been difficult to work with and that the 49ers ask for, "the sun and the moon" in trade discussions. It was from La Canfora so I'm not sure how credible it is.

He also mentioned Lynch goes through Shanahan for everything and it's frustrating for front offices who deal with them. I feel like if New England could work with them then they could work with the Browns.

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These guys have been doing a pretty good job adding talent to the team. I understand the impatience of fans having sat through so many terrible years, but the talent is young and hasn’t had time to develop yet. If we cut these guys loose after two years I’ll be pretty disappointed because while they haven’t batted 1.000 they’ve made more good decisions than bad in my opinion. Jamie Collins trade + extending him, free agent signings on the offensive line, more hits than misses in the draft so far, plus accumulating a war chest to hopefully spend next year - all good moves. Kenny Britt, saying publicly Wenzt wasn’t good, (maybe) botching a trade, overdrafting a few guys - bad moves. All in all I think they’ve been fine.

The hit pieces from the media/good old boys club of the NFL make me feel good about the direction we’re going because it seems they’ve got front office people around the league worried that they’ve done a good enough job to potentially threaten the status quo of only hiring within the club. The more successful they look the more likely other teams look at analytics guys instead.

Our owner and our coaching staff deserve the ire of the fan base way more than the front office. I think too many people are being swayed by the talk into misplacing blame.
 
This teams trenches are a lot better if the past. Drango looked good out there on Sunday in place of Joe Thomas. I wish we got get a healthy Garrett for the rest of the year, to see what we really have in him.

They hit on value free agent pick ups as well. The secondary is bad, but look how damn young our safety's are. Gotta think they're going to address the offense this upcoming draft.


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I'd like to see them draft wideouts with whom are known to have more reliable hands and are more refined route runners. I won't bash their process because I can't say I know the specific nature of it, but I want more out of my receivers than obvious athleticism as a prospect if I am trying to establish an actual foundation of an offense.
 
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I'd like to see them draft wideouts with whom are known to have more reliable hands and are more refined route runners. I won't bash their process because I can't say I know the specific nature of it, but I want more out of my receivers than obvious athleticism as a prospect if I am trying to establish an actual foundation of an offense.
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Outside of Coleman, weren't they all later round picks?


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The Voice said:
Outside of Coleman, weren't they all later round picks?
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Louis and DeValve (TE, but still) were both fourth-rounders. I think they were the highest WR/TE players to be drafted other than Coleman and Njoku.
 
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Was thinking this morning: is it possible that the Browns were trying to lose? Like between the coaching blunders (and I mean not just Hue, but G Williams), the whole "roller coaster" comment by DePodesta, the various obvious roster flaws, personnel decisions, etc., is there a possibility that we were trying to tank? Like every player wanted to win, and I really do think that they played hard, and we even had our own competition tell us that we aren't as bad as our record (IIRC, it was a Lions player).

-How in the world does it make sense to line a player up 30 yards off the ball?
-How do you cut Osweiller? How do you NOT bring in another vet at least? Like who can even help these dotards in the QB room?
-We handed the ball to a Rookie and he went downhill fast. Then we sat him then restarted him. I just can't even...
-How do you not address the free safety position before we hit camp? Then you cut Haden who could have been easily the best FS on our roster, just based on experience alone.
-We couldn't have known that Britt would do us like that, as far as drop off. Then we got hit with an injury to Coleman... but after that, with a rookie QB, either you shut it down or you make a trade.

The ONLY explanation that I can put a spin on that would allow for me to even entertain the thought that we aren't completely inept is that DePodesta has a plan. It's like being an atheist and finding out you have cancer and saying G-d has a plan. It's nothing but faith at this point for any fans left. I am one of them: I actually am dumb enough to believe that there's a plan that DePodesta has in place.

The moment he gets fired is the moment where I won't even check the scores.
 
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