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Nerlens Noel: Worth the Risk?

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Will the Cavs draft and keep Noel ?

  • Yes - The Cavs draft and keep this kid.

    Votes: 102 81.6%
  • No - The Cavs go a different direction

    Votes: 23 18.4%

  • Total voters
    125
  • Poll closed .
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My guess is that his drop has everything to do with medical concerns.
 
Freak accident ACL injuries can be disregarded in many cases. Noel will be placed in that particular situation again in the future. Will the other knee go when that happens? Will the repaired one go?
 
Or they see a 217lb guy with limited offensive game.

I think that has more to do with it than anything else. He's an offensive black hole. He goes up for a dunk, you hack him, he misses one or both free throws. Glad we didn't go that direction.
 
Why did Noel slip so far? Was the knee more of a concern than we all initially thought?
Chad Ford
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Doesn't sound like from all the intel I can gather. I've talked to a number of teams that passed on him and none mentioned long-term concerns with the knee. I think they WERE worried about drafting a guy who might not play for them next year. Even the GMs that WANT to be bad next year were worried that their jobs might be in jeopardy if they didn't have their top draft pick for the year. That's the sort of short term thinking that put a lot of these teams in the lottery to begin with.

Not what a lot of people want to hear...
 
Not what a lot of people want to hear...


I think Ford is just covering for himself as he and everyone else had it wrong. I am going to repost what I posted in the Bennett thread that I think is more on the mark in terms of how the decision went down

For what it is worth, I talked to @ESPNAndyKatz today and asked him if noel's knee injury is worse than reported. He say several teams thought that the growth plate issue was real and they were all freaked out by the weight of 206 lbs. He said that CAVS did a very good job of disguising who they were going to pick and that they probably got the right guy in Bennett.
 
I was mostly saying that a lot of posters wanted Noel and were okay with passing on him if his knee was wrecked beyond repair. Ford didn't directly say that that was teams' major concern...but yes Ford is an idiot. Claims that he had Bennett in the mix for the #1 pick when he was predicting Noel, then Len, then Porter, then McLemore...never once heard him on the Anthony Bennett train other than the standard 6 top prospects stuff.
 
If Noel reinjures the knee in the 2nd half of the season it's a good decision to have stayed away. If he comes back healthy, and out plays Bennett we are going to have another Valanciunas Thompson gripe on our hands.

What's going to be worse is if Valanciunas also breaks out this year. Then we're going to have the complaints about how good of a fit Valanciunas would be with nerlens given V has a jump shot, and both are mobile defenders.

It would be fitting to have Nerlens reinjure the leg, and Valanciunas take a dump with Thompson having the break out year, and Bennett surprising with near 20-10 his rookie season fulfilling the larry johnson hype with Varejao holding down the center position for 35 minutes a night playing all 82 games negating the worries of having no center on the roster. /end blue sky
 
If Noel reinjures the knee in the 2nd half of the season it's a good decision to have stayed away. If he comes back healthy, and out plays Bennett we are going to have another Valanciunas Thompson gripe on our hands.

What's going to be worse is if Valanciunas also breaks out this year. Then we're going to have the complaints about how good of a fit Valanciunas would be with nerlens given V has a jump shot, and both are mobile defenders.

It would be fitting to have Nerlens reinjure the leg, and Valanciunas take a dump with Thompson having the break out year, and Bennett surprising with near 20-10 his rookie season fulfilling the larry johnson hype with Varejao holding down the center position for 35 minutes a night playing all 82 games negating the worries of having no center on the roster. /end blue sky

That would be very convenient, if you could get started on that we'd all appreciate it
 
If we did have Valanciunas that would have been an even lower chance we would have taken Noel.
 
The reasons most people give for Noel falling are just smokescreens. I think the concern is he's cousins 2.0. Malcontent primadonna that scouts, and other players just don't want to be around. Remember Dan Gilbert's quote about the mud in the ice cream? That's Noel. The differences between Noel, and Bennett aren't really that different. They are similar talents, it's just at opposite ends of the court. For the cavs most people sided with Noel because of the cavs hole defensively. But, when you factor in character, something that fans don't evaluate, and g.m.'s and scout's do, Anthony Bennett was a choir boy, and noel was Mr. Hyde.
 
I don't think he's Cousins 2.0 - he's too conserved and relaxed of a person for that to happen. With that said, he does come off as very odd in his interviews, and it's hard to gauge what kind of person he is. I'm sure CG and the rest of the league's GM's have more insight on that than we do, which probably partially explains why he fell so far. Injuries are another topic of debate which I'm sure came into play. I still think this guy is going to be a defensive monster in the NBA, but defense-only prospects hardly ever go #1 pick in a draft for good reason. Not too bummed we passed on him. Would have significantly helped our interior defense when he gets healthy, but Bennett could be the offensive force in the frontcourt that we've also been direly lacking.
 
Just a lil bump with the latest news:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>76ers head coach says he doubts Nerlens sees the court this season</p>&mdash; David Zavac (@DavidZavac) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidZavac/statuses/392405000959180800">October 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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If Noel reinjures the knee in the 2nd half of the season it's a good decision to have stayed away. If he comes back healthy, and out plays Bennett we are going to have another Valanciunas Thompson gripe on our hands.

What's going to be worse is if Valanciunas also breaks out this year. Then we're going to have the complaints about how good of a fit Valanciunas would be with nerlens given V has a jump shot, and both are mobile defenders.

It would be fitting to have Nerlens reinjure the leg, and Valanciunas take a dump with Thompson having the break out year, and Bennett surprising with near 20-10 his rookie season fulfilling the larry johnson hype with Varejao holding down the center position for 35 minutes a night playing all 82 games negating the worries of having no center on the roster. /end blue sky

Lmaooooooo
 
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