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[brownindian]

i am pissed. Who is to blame Netflix or Marvel/Piss-ney ?

 

[Jack Brickman]

i am pissed. Who is to blame Netflix or Marvel/Piss-ney ?

Pretty sure it's Marvel that wants out. They likely want to relaunch these characters in their own universe on their own streaming service.

I know the shows technically take place within the MCU, but let's be honest, they also really don't because there is zero crossover with the actual MCU outside of mentioning a few of the characters here and there.

 

[Real Deal]

Started that series Haunting Hill House this week and goddamn episode 5 ending about had me shivering. If you like horror, it's for you.

 

[inliner311]

Pretty sure it's Marvel that wants out. They likely want to relaunch these characters in their own universe on their own streaming service.

I know the shows technically take place within the MCU, but let's be honest, they also really don't because there is zero crossover with the actual MCU outside of mentioning a few of the characters here and there.

I wonder if Netflix will sell the previous seasons back to Marvel/Disney or if they will just wait till all of them are done with Netflix and restart them with new actors and crew.

It's hard to see them being able to continue the series on the Disney service with the same actors without the previous seasons. Also as time passes it will harder to keep the same actors, they will most likely end up on new shows.

 

[KI4MVP]

"While the series on Netflix has ended, the three existing seasons will remain on the service for years to come, while the Daredevil character will live on in future projects for Marvel," Netflix said in its statement.​

 

[The Voice]

Netflix just cancelled Daredevil. I'm pretty salty about that. I really enjoy the show and I'm just finishing up S3. With the mass MCU/Netflix cancellations, are they being ported over to new Disney stream service for future seasons?

Disney would have to buy back that content.

 

[The Voice]

i am pissed. Who is to blame Netflix or Marvel/Piss-ney ?

Most likely both, Netflix spent a lot of cash on the marvel series they have. They probably realized the amount of subscribers they gain are not amounting to what they’ve spent on all 4 defenders+punisher. Disney probably wouldn’t budge on what they wanted for it.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Most likely both, Netflix spent a lot of cash on the marvel series they have. They probably realized the amount of subscribers they gain are not amounting to what they’ve spent on all 4 defenders+punisher. Disney probably wouldn’t budge on what they wanted for it.

I don't think it's so much that as it is that, when Netflix made this deal, they had a very limited amount of original content and securing a Marvel deal was huge for them because it was one of the hottest properties in the entertainment business. Five years later, though, Netflix has a billion original shows and doesn't really need the promise of more Marvel properties to attract viewers. They have their own megahits like Stranger Things, 13 Reasons Why, Narcos, etc.

 

[inliner311]

I don't think it's so much that as it is that, when Netflix made this deal, they had a very limited amount of original content and securing a Marvel deal was huge for them because it was one of the hottest properties in the entertainment business. Five years later, though, Netflix has a billion original shows and doesn't really need the promise of more Marvel properties to attract viewers. They have their own megahits like Stranger Things, 13 Reasons Why, Narcos, etc.

Netflix has now licensed out content to other networks. Like Bojack Horseman is on Comedy Central now. They license content to major networks in countries Netflix isn't in. My guess is Netflix only got a portion of the licensing fees for the Marvel shows or none at all. We saw network tv not pick alot of shows that they didn't completely own this year, this might be the same thing for Netflix.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Netflix has now licensed out content to other networks. Like Bojack Horseman is on Comedy Central now. They license content to major networks in countries Netflix isn't in. My guess is Netflix only got a portion of the licensing fees for the Marvel shows or none at all. We saw network tv not pick alot of shows that they didn't completely own this year, this might be the same thing for Netflix.

Yeah, I think that's part of it as well, but I think it comes down to a numbers game. Netflix can keep the existing shows on their service forever, I believe, so they already got what they needed out of the relationship. It also sounds like Marvel was kind of strong-arming them and making it difficult to iron out issues for the Netflix shows, and consequently it was just easier to cancel them and move on since Marvel wanted those properties back anyway and wasn't going to work with them amicably any more.

 

[inliner311]

Gives a good explaination of why netflix is canceling the marvel shows.

https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/11/30/the-real-reasons-netflix-is-cancelling-their-marvel-shows/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/11/30/the-real-reasons-netflix-is-cancelling-their-marvel-shows/

 

[Jack Brickman]

Finished Narcos: Mexico.

My main complaint is that it's just not as good as the first three seasons, and I think that comes down to the characters. Seasons one through three had some great characters on both sides of the drug war, but Mexico just doesn't provide that. You never really get a sense for who Miguel Gallardo is like you did with Pablo Escobar or the leaders of the Cali cartel. He also doesn't seem to have much agency, as he kind of drifts from one moment to another and survives as much on luck as anything else.

I assume that his rise to power in the Mexican drug game was a lot more calculated in real life, but on the show version it just seems like he kept getting ridiculously lucky. He skips from one near death experience to the next and somehow always comes out on top despite mostly just accepting his fate. I always got the sense in seasons one and two that Pablo Escobar made his own luck, but it didn't feel like that here.

Similarly, the American side of the show suffers as well. Michael Pena is fine as doomed DEA agent Kiki Camarena, but the character is just markedly weaker than either Pedro Pascal's excellent Javier Pena or Boyd Holbrook's Steve Murphy. Further, the other American agents are just kind of there, and don't really contribute much of note, kind of like an even lesser version of the non-Pascal agents from season three.

Overall, worth watching, but it felt like this season was largely set-up for the next, and so it was a lot of treading water to get everyone to where they need to be for next year.

 

[Ohio]

Rewatching True Detective Season 1 right now since Season 3 is coming soon.

It's just so fucking good. I cannot believe it fell off as hard as it did in Season 2.

Hopefully it bounces back in Season 3.

 

[David.]

Rewatching True Detective Season 1 right now since Season 3 is coming soon.

It's just so fucking good. I cannot believe it fell off as hard as it did in Season 2.

Hopefully it bounces back in Season 3.

I love Vince Vaughn and true detective. How in the fuck did season 2 suck so much dick and ass

 

[Jack Brickman]

I love Vince Vaughn and true detective. How in the fuck did season 2 suck so much dick and ass

I think it's because Matthew McConaughey's performance helps mask the flaws from the first season in a way that no one in season two is capable of.

Kind of like how Heath Ledger's Joker performance in The Dark Knight allows you to overlook all the movie's plot holes in a way that Tom Hardy's performance as Bane in the sequel does not. Both movies had a ton of plot holes, but you really only hear them brought up when talking about Rises, and it's because Ledger was so good no one cared about them in TDK.