Parity in the NBA right now is horrible but

[David.]

Like it was said earlier, the NBA thought the answer was giving players more money to stay with their team, and other than Westbrook and Griffin(who ended up getting traded) it really hasn't worked.

Hard cap would probably be the best solution, but I doubt the players agree to anything close to a hard cap or that limits their own control. We saw it with LeBron, we kinda saw it with CP3, PG13, Kyrie, and Kawhi.

The next CBA talks will be an interesting one, because despite the lack or parity, the NBA is still increasing their profits.

I dint get it. We've had an excuse but who the hell else would watch this garbage other than warriors and cavs fans?

 

[czvo]

Wait. These two posts completely contradict themselves.

You're on a rant about teams not being "aggressive" in pursuing a roster that can win a championship, and then condemn the Raptors for making a major move for a top 5 player because their current core has been a massive postseason disappointment for, what, 4 years? 5? 6?

This take is just awful, man. You've given no legitimate examples to support something you've concocted in your own mind that has not played out whatsoever in reality.

I'm glad you pointed this out, because I was reading these posts doing the Jackie Chan meme.

 

[Cassity14]

I dint get it. We've had an excuse but who the hell else would watch this garbage other than warriors and cavs fans?

People like rivalries and dynasties. The finals each of the past 4 seasons has received extremely high ratings.

 

[czvo]

People like rivalries and dynasties. The finals each of the past 4 seasons has received extremely high ratings.

Plus there's the LeBron factor.

 

[Cassity14]

Plus there's the LeBron factor.

At this point, he's a dynasty all by himself lol

 

[czvo]

At this point, he's a dynasty all by himself lol

No kidding. He's got the same kind of impact as Jordan, but you won't see TV numbers like MJ had because it's too diluted nowadays.

 

[brownindian]

People like rivalries and dynasties. The finals each of the past 4 seasons has received extremely high ratings.

I may be one of the minorities that dont. Dynasties and the usual suspects making it to the finals is boring. I feel like there is more fun if there is complete unpredictability- like not knowing which team will make the playoffs let alone come to the finals. But that is just me - take it for what it is worth.

 

[Cavatt]

The Raptors were smart . Philly and Boston stupidly stayed pat because they have drank their own cool aid. Rarely do you get a chance at a guy like Kawhi. Boston especially because they could have actually sealed up a team that could compete with GS by adding him.

No way he leaves for shitty clippers or to join the Lakers retirement tour. I just don't see it. If Kawhi is healthy the Raptors are the deepest team in the league and will likely be the best defensive team. Weak link is their coach I guess . Traded a great regular season performer for the real deal. Not hard to see that the raptors are greatly improved. Better than Boston IMO

 

[Cassity14]

The Raptors were smart . Philly and Boston stupidly stayed pat because they have drank their own cool aid. Rarely do you get a chance at a guy like Kawhi. Boston especially because they could have actually sealed up a team that could compete with GS by adding him.

No way he leaves for shitty clippers or to join the Lakers retirement tour. I just don't see it. If Kawhi is healthy the Raptors are the deepest team in the league and will likely be the best defensive team. Weak link is their coach I guess . Traded a great regular season performer for the real deal. Not hard to see that the raptors are greatly improved. Better than Boston IMO

I need to see the level of motivation that Leonard plays with before hopping on the bandwagon, but I agree with you that from their perspective, the deal was way too good to pass up.

I still think Boston is better simply because I envision Tatum taking a Durant type leap in year 2. However, health is their number 1 enemy. If they don't have Kyrie, they will struggle with that Toronto matchup.

 

[Cavatt]

I need to see the level of motivation that Leonard plays with before hopping on the bandwagon, but I agree with you that from their perspective, the deal was way too good to pass up.

I still think Boston is better simply because I envision Tatum taking a Durant type leap in year 2. However, health is their number 1 enemy. If they don't have Kyrie, they will struggle with that Toronto matchup.

I am wary of anyone that good in year 1 taking a huge jump. It's very rare. Tyreke, Kyrie. When you are that polished guys rarely just keep on Etting better and better. Good for him if I am wrong.

If Kawhi doesn't ball out that is 2 years of screwing around in his prime and I think teams would have to question his love of the game.

I also think everyone believes Hayward and Kyrie make that team a lot better. I'm not sure . Last year those dudes balled out. They will be better, but not by some huge margin.

 

[K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's]

You can create real parity without a hard cap and without taking players money away, just institute rules that limit the amount of talent a single team can hoard, GS truly has made a mockery of the NBA and Adam Silver.

For example, a team cannot have two league MVPs, set the limit to one, a team cannot have more than 3 all stars or two all NBA players on the roster, this will force the high level talent in the NBA to be really spread out and make the league more interesting and balanced.

If a player has made the AllStar team for the first time and his team already has 3 other all stars he can finish the season but one of the 4 has to be off the roster at the start of the next season, I think this is the only way to bring real parity to the NBA.

Heck maybe even set the limit to two all stars imagine how different the NBA would look and how competitive every season would be

 

[czvo]

You can create real parity without a hard cap and without taking players money away, just institute rules that limit the amount of talent a single team can hoard, GS truly has made a mockery of the NBA and Adam Silver.

For example, a team cannot have two league MVPs, set the limit to one, a team cannot have more than 3 all stars or two all NBA players on the roster, this will force the high level talent in the NBA to be really spread out and make the league more interesting and balanced.

If a player has made the AllStar team for the first time and his team already has 3 other all stars he can finish the season but one of the 4 has to be off the roster at the start of the next season, I think this is the only way to bring real parity to the NBA.

Heck maybe even set the limit to two all stars imagine how different the NBA would look and how competitive every season would be

I know people keep throwing this idea around, but I don't see any way that it works. What about guys that have won an MVP, but are at the end if their careers? What about a team that has an MVP player, but his teammate then wins the award? Does the team have to immediately trade one of them?

And if you get into the other awards, those that vote on those things now have the power to dramatically change the league in ways they should not. We've already seen the media given a little bit of power in determining who can get the super max. It hasn't been a problem yet, but imagine if all-NBA factored into who teams were allowed to sign.

It's all so tough to pin down. Just take away the max salary, and if players are and still going to take pay cuts, well, that's life.

 

[K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's]

I know people keep throwing this idea around, but I don't see any way that it works. What about guys that have won an MVP, but are at the end if their careers? What about a team that has an MVP player, but his teammate then wins the award? Does the team have to immediately trade one of them?

And if you get into the other awards, those that vote on those things now have the power to dramatically change the league in ways they should not. We've already seen the media given a little bit of power in determining who can get the super max. It hasn't been a problem yet, but imagine if all-NBA factored into who teams were allowed to sign.

It's all so tough to pin down. Just take away the max salary, and if players are and still going to take pay cuts, well, that's life.

Guys that won the MVP in the past but are over the age of 34 the rule will not apply, players that win the MVP while they have another MVP on the roster will force the team to trade one of the MVPs before the 1st game is played in the next season.

It’s not s perfect a solution, but it will make the NBA very fluid and dynamic yet very balanced and competitive at the same time, never again you’ll have the starting five of the Westren Conference All Star team and two recent MVPs on the same roster making the rest of NBA completely irrelevant, and you really wouldn’t know who’s going to the finals or winning a championship every year.

By the way do you mean taking away player max salary but keeping team salary cap in place or just removing the caps all together?

 

[czvo]

Guys that won the MVP in the past but are over the age of 34 the rule will not apply, players that win the MVP while they have another MVP on the roster will force the team to trade one of the MVPs before the 1st game is played in the next season.

It’s not s perfect a solution, but it will make the NBA very fluid and dynamic yet very balanced and competitive at the same time, never again you’ll have the starting five of the Westren Conference All Star team and two recent MVPs on the same roster making the rest of NBA completely irrelevant, and you really wouldn’t know who’s going to the finals or winning a championship every year.

By the way do you mean taking away player max salary but keeping team salary cap in place or just removing the caps all together?

Why 34? That's very arbitrary. LeBron at 34 is the best player in the league. Allen Iverson at 34 was barely hanging onto a spot in the league, and was retired like 2 years later.

Also not a fan of a team making good moves only to get penalized because they did what they were supposed to do. If a team drafts two players, or signs an mvp, then has a drafted player win one, doesn't seem right to make that team trade one of them. Then you've got other teams that KNOW one of those guys has to be moved, so they aren't putting together the kind of package an mvp level guy should get.


And I think you keep the cap in place, but take away the max limit. Let a guy like LeBron make $70 mil a year if a team wants to pay him that.

 

[Cassity14]

Why 34? That's very arbitrary. LeBron at 34 is the best player in the league. Allen Iverson at 34 was barely hanging onto a spot in the league, and was retired like 2 years later.

Also not a fan of a team making good moves only to get penalized because they did what they were supposed to do. If a team drafts two players, or signs an mvp, then has a drafted player win one, doesn't seem right to make that team trade one of them. Then you've got other teams that KNOW one of those guys has to be moved, so they aren't putting together the kind of package an mvp level guy should get.


And I think you keep the cap in place, but take away the max limit. Let a guy like LeBron make $70 mil a year if a team wants to pay him that.

Is this under a soft or hard salary cap?

A hard cap, to me, has to be the starting point for any league serious about parity.